Russian soldier has throat cut for not converting to Islam

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Evgeniy Rodionov Soldier Martyr
The 19 year old New Russian Orthodox Saint of Chechnya

Chechen field commander Rusland Haihoroev (also spelled Khaikhoroyev in some sources) slit the throat of the soldier and later beheaded him on May 23, 1996 (his 19th birthday) near the settlement of Bamut. His body, along with four other Russian prisoners were placed in a bomb crater outside the village of Alexeevskaya and covered up with lime and dirt. Haihoroev stated later in an interview that he only killed Rodionov after the soldier denied conversion to Islam and refused to give up his orthodox cross.
 
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I'm quite opposed to the idea of killing prisoners, I mean you can out them to work building stuff for you, you could trade them for your soldiers the enemy has taken prisoner, a little imagination and they can serve a purpose.....

At the point at which they're unarmed I think its not moral to kill them, if they're in the process of doing something dangerous to you, no problem, but not unarmed people......
 
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Taking or not takng prisoners is sometimes a matter of military expediency. For partisans, who are dependent on mobility and seldom have fixed bases of operations, dragging along prisoners is not very realistic.

Or, imagine a group being on a very particular infiltration mission, getting into a fight and enemies surrendering. They can't take the prisoners along without botching the mission, and taking them back to base would abort the mission. What's there to do, then, other than shoot them?
 
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Taking or not takng prisoners is sometimes a matter of military expediency. For partisans, who are dependent on mobility and seldom have fixed bases of operations, dragging along prisoners is not very realistic.

Or, imagine a group being on a very particular infiltration mission, getting into a fight and enemies surrendering. They can't take the prisoners along without botching the mission, and taking them back to base would abort the mission. What's there to do, then, other than shoot them?
He wasn't killed for military reasons but for refusing to convert to Islam.

Religion aside, I am not surprised about anything coming from Chechnya. There has been too much suffering and too many atrocities committed by both sides.
 
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He wasn't killed for military reasons but for refusing to convert to Islam.

Religion aside, I am not surprised about anything coming from Chechnya. There has been too much suffering and too many atrocities committed by both sides.
Wrong.He was killed because he was a member of an invading army.But non-muslims criminals are asked to accept islam.If they accept islam they get free.
 
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anatolian said:
Wrong.He was killed because he was a member of an invading army.But non-muslims criminals are asked to accept islam.If they accept islam they get free.
How is that feasible and how is that even fair? The eventual result is that they will kill the prisoner purely on the basis for non converting to Islam.

Also is it expected that the prisoners 'conversion' will be legitimate or just in order to save his or her skin? How is it even possible to convert based on force?
 
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I think it is more along the lines of, they fight, and some prisoners are captured, if the prisoners can be kept, that are, if not (under the circumstances Futuwwa pointed out) then they are to be executed, and as a last thing, they ask the prisoners who are going to be executed to accept Islam, because if they are willing, it would be quite immoral to kill them in the eyes of the Chechnyan's, so it is not so much as a forced conversion, but a last chance for prisoners on death row

(If I understand correctly that it, might be completely off)
 
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I think it is more along the lines of, they fight, and some prisoners are captured, if the prisoners can be kept, that are, if not (under the circumstances Futuwwa pointed out) then they are to be executed, and as a last thing, they ask the prisoners who are going to be executed to accept Islam, because if they are willing, it would be quite immoral to kill them in the eyes of the Chechnyan's, so it is not so much as a forced conversion, but a last chance for prisoners on death row

(If I understand correctly that it, might be completely off)

hola

killing people for wanting to kill you, but only if you do not have enough room for them and not if they choose to obey your religion... it is sickening and confusing. this is why i do not believe in war... people have to delve into the twisted arithmatic of murder and in the process become twisted themselves.

que Dios te bendiga
 
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I agree with you, war is a silly thing, I wont do it, doubt I could actually kill someone even

Russians want the oil, lord know what the Chechnyans want, but theyll fight it out, until I think inevitably Russia wins, I think we're killing them faster than they are reproducing, they have resorted to using child soldiers because of this, and they were horrid scenarios at first, because the Russian soldiers would not kill children, but the children had AKs (I wonder how they even managed to hold one) and were more than willing to shoot the Russian soldiers
 
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