Once again you fall back on the gray area of what is a disagreement and what isn't. Any conflict or disunity of belief you simply dismiss as a disagreement but quickly dismiss any possibility of it being a disagreement in other denominations. My experience in several different denominations is that they do try to sort out differences. One key difference is that they don't have a group at the top just make a decision and say that is what people believe. That doesn't work. Sure on your list of official beliefs it may look good but you end up with disunity because on the ground level many won't just change their views because some committee told them to. What you end up with is a fake unity.
If you want to be silly by making suggestions like this then say so clearly and then I'll know to leave this conversation. I can assure you I was not talking about a small house church but rather a worldwide denomination.
The interesting thing though is that when one talks to catholics and orthodox you find plenty who disagree with the churches teachings on all kinds of matters. So where has this unity of belief got you? Maybe I could bring out that God is not the author of confusion verse that catholics and orthodox are so fond of quoting. Let's be realistic. Some of these differences have lasted for a long time and have not gone away even when a decision has been made on who is right and wrong. i have heard many catholics say that the orthodox do not go back to pentecost. So how do we know you do? Do we take your word for it or do we take the catholics word for it? Both claim to be the church that was built on Peter. On a side note Peter denied Christ which is why one has to wonder what was going on in the mind of those who said you lose salvation if you deny Christ while being persecuted.
Once again you fall back on the gray area of what is a disagreement and what isn't. Any conflict or disunity of belief you simply dismiss as a disagreement but quickly dismiss any possibility of it being a disagreement in other denominations. My experience in several different denominations is that they do try to sort out differences. One key difference is that they don't have a group at the top just make a decision and say that is what people believe. That doesn't work. Sure on your list of official beliefs it may look good but you end up with disunity because on the ground level many won't just change their views because some committee told them to. What you end up with is a fake unity.
With this I realise that you really dont know much about the Orthodox Church. As such its probably wiser to withhold comment.
If you want to be silly by making suggestions like this then say so clearly and then I'll know to leave this conversation. I can assure you I was not talking about a small house church but rather a worldwide denomination.
The only worldwide denomination that could make the claim with any credibility at all would be Catholicism.
The interesting thing though is that when one talks to catholics and orthodox you find plenty who disagree with the churches teachings on all kinds of matters. So where has this unity of belief got you? Maybe I could bring out that God is not the author of confusion verse that catholics and orthodox are so fond of quoting. Let's be realistic. Some of these differences have lasted for a long time and have not gone away even when a decision has been made on who is right and wrong. i have heard many catholics say that the orthodox do not go back to pentecost. So how do we know you do? Do we take your word for it or do we take the catholics word for it? Both claim to be the church that was built on Peter. On a side note Peter denied Christ which is why one has to wonder what was going on in the mind of those who said you lose salvation if you deny Christ while being persecuted.
You content that the prsence of Tares in the Wheat is evidence that the Church is not the Church? I dont think that is much of a case really. As for the catholic Church their position is actually somewhat different in reality.They willingly admit that they develop doctrine over time and accuse us of stagnation because they recognise that we dont. By their own words it's we who do not change, and from a Catholic standpoint that is a problem, from mine its evidence of continuance of unity.
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