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Working Class Ditching Dem Party In Droves As Some Say It’s ‘Fighting For Everybody Else’ Besides Americans

I wholeheartedly agree labor has been neglected by the Democrats. If Bernie and AOC can get that message out, they might have a good chance. Newsome too.

-- A2SG, guess we'll see...the midterms could be very interesting, if Democrats don't muck up the opportunity.....
Success lies in control of the House and Senate. If we are to return to Constitutional government it is essential. Right now we have a situation in which our CEO is telling the Board of Directors what to do or ignoring them altogether. That is a bad situation no matter what the CEO's policies are. AOC would be much more powerful as Speaker of the House than as President.
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Is Intelligibility of the Quantum Universe an evidence of God's Existence?

I haven't watched the video. So perhaps I'm speaking out of line.

But, just as a matter of principle, I am generally uncomfortable and skeptical about "science/math proves God" types of arguments and presentations. And it's not necessarily because the arguments are themselves bad (I'll be frank, I haven't really done a lot of deep dives into specific arguments of this nature, so I can't speak to how well those arguments are constructed)--but rather it's more of a general principle because of my theological convictions.

I think it is entirely possible for individuals to find in the observation of the universe the signposts of the Creator--I think that's normal, as a Christian I see Scripture itself speaks of this, e.g. "The heavens declare the glory of God". But I'm also reminded of what St. Paul says in Romans 1, that the display of divine power and wisdom in the universe doesn't lead to faith in the Creator, but has often resulted in idolatry. Which is to say, an equation cannot lead me to an encounter with God, that happens uniquely in and through the Incarnate Person of Jesus Christ.

A room full of people, looking at the same objective data, may perceive the fingerprint of the Divine, or may walk away full atheistic. Even if I believe, by faith, that the whole universe displays the Divine power and wisdom of the Good Creator; that is a position that is uniquely one of faith--without faith, what I see could just as easily lead me to an entirely different religious position, to a position of total non-religiosity, or result in total indifference.

I think there are good ways to intersect faith and science; but that is always within a theological framework; rather than a naturalistic (i.e. scientific) framework. I may behold the mountains and whelmed by the majesty of it, a hymn of praise to God arises out of me--but that isn't because I discovered God by taking soil and mineral samples, but because, in faith, I behold the beauty of the universe and see a signpost of the transcendent Divine Beauty.

-CryptoLutheran
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How is it that the Catholic Church is evil?

No. God has not left the greater part of humanity without the benefit of instruction and salvation to be found in holy scripture in dead languages few if any still speak. He raised up translators, individuals and institutions, suited to this exact purpose. Today we have many translations to compare, not to mention many easily accessible lexicons, and Greek, Hebrew, or other language dictionaries suited to exactly study the original languages you speak of. If in fact God has not preserved His word by such means for us to understand, then don't worry be happy and enjoy what ever free for all you choose. We are all on our own or at the mercy of some who would lord themselves over us, and in fact have no responsibility toward God, who has not even considered it important to preserve a knowledge of His will for the average person. To the contrary -

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

God has preserved and provided his word in the various languages of the differing peoples of earth, though many have and do try to prevent such.


Yes the Bible has been translated, but to rely solely on the translation without study of the original language is to rely on men rather than God.

God gave us a Church not a book. Scripture tells us that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth. 1Tim3:15 This is inline with sabbath teaching. God creates then He rests.

Jesus built His Church and sealed it with the Holy Spirt in 33AD. The Bible has been translated and manipulated numerous times in that span. The Church has remained intact.
God inspired men by the Holy Spirit to write scripture, and the Holy Spirit guards His Church intact since the same 33AD.

The many that have tried and do try to prevent God’s word are those that deny the Sabbath. They say instead that God was incompetent to build His Church and allowed it to become apostate, and He needed the special talents of special men to do His work for Him, but there is no record either inside or outside scripture to say He would do that.

Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. His teaching remains intact since 33 AD

I cannot give belief to a group that claims to honor the sabbath and denies it at the same time. A group that demands I follow the teaching of men rather than God.
You claim logic from scripture to say that there is no hell. Jesus warned of hell. What is to fear from the sleep of death? If death is sleep there is no difference between the just and the unjust. Atheists believe that already. Eternal separation from God who created you is a greater fear. Separated not because He rejects you, rather a soul in hell has rejected God, denied His creative power and proclaimed Him unjust to rule His kingdom. It is eternal separation, not sleep which no one fears.
SDA cannot even take a stance on abortion. The direct murder and blood sacrifice of children is ok, because decisions are so difficult. What nonsense is this? Killing babies is ok but don’t dare eat pork or even meat for that matter. Breakfast cereal was promoted by SDA named Kellogg to supposedly reduce a man’s libido, as meat eating allegedly induces sexual desire. Really? Where in scripture does Christ teach that? Our Lord said it is not what goes into a man that makes him unclean, rather the behavior that comes out.

Where is your consistency in scriptural translation? SDA love to say that Jesus denied the blessedness of His own mother by translating Luke 11:28 as “on the contrary” instead of the correct translation of “yes, rather”
Mary is the promised enemy of Satan Gen 3:15.
Her flesh is beautiful, but her profound beauty is in her obedience. “Behold the handmaid of the Lord, be it done to me according to your word”
Why does the Bible need to be mistranslated to prove your point?

Translations do matter and your inability to admit that we should consider the original language of the Bible instead of a translation far removed from the original is telling. Do you wish to keep the original words of Gods from reaching the ears of men?


You need to do more research for your book instead of using confirmation bias from those that agree with you. That mode of argument is not scholarly. It deceives the user to think one is right when he could be mistaken
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How did Jesus end the law without abolishing it?

I have found through study that God placed me in a world in which other voices exist, just as HE did Eve. These "other voices" work to diminish God's Word, implying that God Lies to people, and that His Words can not be trusted. You can see this in the story of Eve. We see examples of men surrounded by these other voices, like Noah, and like righteous Lot who was vexed by them every day. Abraham was told by God to walk before Him and be perfect. But the "other voice" in the garden God placed me in, preaches that this same God withheld from Abraham and all men, the ability to do what God instructed him to do

Joshua and Caleb trusted God's Word, and encouraged all those other men around them, who professed to know God, to engage in the battles we face, and overcome, because if God is with us who can be against us. But these "other voices" moved to stone them to death for even considering such a thing. I could go on and on all through the Bible of examples God gave me of this "other voice". Even Jesus was placed in a world with voices, who professed to know God, but worked to convince as many as they could to reject God's Word in favor of theirs. Jesus speaks to this very thing.

Matt. 23: 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

So I am full aware of the teaching of the religious voices of the religious system of this world that God placed me in. And I am fully aware that they, as they have since the beginning, will work to diminish the Words of God, as if HE gives a Command, then withholds from men the ability to obey the command, then punishes them when they can't obey.
God's command (i.e., faith) is savingly obeyed only by those to whom he has sovereignly (based on nothng but his will to do so, as unaccountable as the wind, Jn 3:6-8) given new birth (Jn 3:3-5).
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That Which is Born of the Spirit

I did not think you made the point, but since it's often mentioned by others, I wanted to make that point.


I won't quarrel with that.
This is what scripture says.
However, are you saying that God does not give and take his spirit, in the same way?
Spiritual birth creates a spiritual creature that is "joined to the Lord" and "one spirit with Him" (1 Cor 6:17). We are in Him and He is in us. To see Him leaving would be to see a dissolution of the new creature. Certainly that would be permanently ruinous. But no, I don't see that as ever happening.
I can understand why you don't think it makes sense, but it does, doesn't it? When you consider that the Devil that rebelled against God, along with a third of the heavenly host, were in God's very presence, bathed in his glory, it makes sense, does it not?
Also, the scriptures pointed out that humans, who are far less intelligent than angels, and sinful.... the angels are not, did the same thing, as you would see from my previous post.... if you read those scriptures.
You are right that we have no reason to have confidence in the flesh. But that was my point. I guess we're in agreement on this one?
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