The woman is Israel, who then flees to the wilderness. In context of the timeframe when things occurred in Revelation.. the child who ascends to heaven is not Jesus because the woman who gave birth to the child is not Mary. She gave birth to Jesus in the timeframe of the gospels. While the woman spoken of in Revelation is yet to occur in future.
At the timeframe of Revelation Jesus appears to the apostle John in His full glory having ascended to heaven in the timeframe of forty (or was it ten) days before the fulfillment of Pentecost. So it's out of sequence for Jesus to be mentioned in Revelation to have been born and a few months later to ascend to heaven during that timeframe.
Who then is the child? Israel's 144,000.
How can Israel be the woman and the child? The designations of "woman" and "child" are descriptive in occurrence. It means that according to Isa.66:7-8, Israel who travails in prayer is also the one who "gives birth" to the 144,000.
In comparison of titles seeming to contradict each other.. the Body of Christ is the church, the Bride of Christ, as well as the collective children or sons of God. In those titles is respectively genders of male (the sons (and daughters), and body of Christ) and female (the daughters (and sons) called the Bride of Christ).
The titles speak of function according to respective timepiece occurrences. The Body of Christ are sons (and daughters) of God who are to do the will of God on the earth. The Body is waiting (as an engaged woman) for Christ (as the Bridegroom) to come and take her (to heaven) in the wedding procedure to be the Bride.
So, those 144,00 out of the twelve tribes are collectively "the child" who become Messianic Jews who have come to believe in Jesus. They preach the gospel during the Tribulation in tandem with the Two Witnesses who's words release the power of God in great wonders.
Then at a certain time the two witnesses are killed, lying dead for three days, then God raises them from the dead and calls them to come up to heaven. I believe that it's possible that at that time the martyred and those still alive of the 144,000 are also included with the Two Witnesses as a repeated similar occurrence of the pre-Tribulation rapture that involved the Body/Bride of Christ.
Or, the Two Witnesses, and the 144,000 are each called up to heaven separately.
At the timeframe of Revelation Jesus appears to the apostle John in His full glory having ascended to heaven in the timeframe of forty (or was it ten) days before the fulfillment of Pentecost. So it's out of sequence for Jesus to be mentioned in Revelation to have been born and a few months later to ascend to heaven during that timeframe.
Who then is the child? Israel's 144,000.
How can Israel be the woman and the child? The designations of "woman" and "child" are descriptive in occurrence. It means that according to Isa.66:7-8, Israel who travails in prayer is also the one who "gives birth" to the 144,000.
In comparison of titles seeming to contradict each other.. the Body of Christ is the church, the Bride of Christ, as well as the collective children or sons of God. In those titles is respectively genders of male (the sons (and daughters), and body of Christ) and female (the daughters (and sons) called the Bride of Christ).
The titles speak of function according to respective timepiece occurrences. The Body of Christ are sons (and daughters) of God who are to do the will of God on the earth. The Body is waiting (as an engaged woman) for Christ (as the Bridegroom) to come and take her (to heaven) in the wedding procedure to be the Bride.
So, those 144,00 out of the twelve tribes are collectively "the child" who become Messianic Jews who have come to believe in Jesus. They preach the gospel during the Tribulation in tandem with the Two Witnesses who's words release the power of God in great wonders.
Then at a certain time the two witnesses are killed, lying dead for three days, then God raises them from the dead and calls them to come up to heaven. I believe that it's possible that at that time the martyred and those still alive of the 144,000 are also included with the Two Witnesses as a repeated similar occurrence of the pre-Tribulation rapture that involved the Body/Bride of Christ.
Or, the Two Witnesses, and the 144,000 are each called up to heaven separately.
