I think we as a nation, and the church have come out of one "season" about a month or so ago. I am not so sure what season we are in now. My younger son made a good point yesterday, he said he knew\understood what season he's in personally but hadn't gotten anything on a larger scope.
That last season was a lot of warfare, having to do with the nation & things going on with the church. Not that there is no more warfare needed, it's just a matter of focus. like it was heavy for me, thinking and praying & trying to sort out all this stuff about anti- Charismatics & then on the other hand Charismatics going to far. Trying to decide what point I am on the line. Trying to take a stand while still remaining reasonable & balanced. Making decisions regarding my kids. That really wasn't easy.
It's not easy saying goodbye and having to cut something off. Ug my husband always eggagerates me, and makes it sound like I'm so cold & etc. If he actually looked and perceived the truth and not just out of trying to maintain a certain view of me...
Anyway... I never just jump and move, it's always after agonizing, debating and rippping apart over it.
If it's a place or entity like " a church" or job etc. that's not the problem, but it's the people part that gets me. I really would like to stay connected w almost everyone. I'm global this way, I believe in a "big ticket", and very loyal when it comes to people. Wish I could stay in touch w everyone, that we all could be one "big happy family" etc.
So goodbyes are hard for me.
Then sometimes you have to do what's best for your ( & or your kids) walk w God, and then comes the agonizing & ripping.
There are really only a few people who have bothered me (like I find it hard to keep good memories of them) over the years... I miss most people.
It was tough, once a again great people- not so great teaching & perspective. It would be loong to get into detail over the whole problem with what was\is going around with positions on grace\God's wrath\judgement\the true meaning of love\ how to share the gospel\ the prophetic...
that is the main debate.
Then you've got the whole new debate over the "toking the ghost" movement and all (which includes some of the above topics).
Then there was the whole Calvinist\T U L I P debate (that I got into w my one son, and why I made the grieved choice to move the other on). Some of the Calvinist stuff I can overlook... even some of the anti- Charismatic stuff (esp when it comes to leaders in sin) BUT sorry I draw the line at teaching the Bible really doesn't say & mean that Jesus loved the WHOLE world and died for the sins of EVERYONE.
HA then right at that time also came up the issue of "Christian" universalism ( or I forgot what the other name of it is...) that in the end EVERYONE is going to heaven- sorry, NOT. Yet, these two CAN be reconciled.
Jesus died for everyone, but not everyone chooses to recieve His sacrifice for sins & follow him.
Neither did God pre-ORDAIN some to hell. That's not the God of the Bible, of love & justice. I know, some say a "loving God wouldn't send someone to hell"- well HE didn't- they sent themselves, by not choosing to believe the gospel which includes the way from keeping out of hell. A loving God provided a way out ( and more importantly a way to know Him, have a relationship with the creator, and a way to fulfill our puposes in life). And this is also the same God of justice who must allow us to suffer the ultimate consequences for our sins (unless we choose His way out) we must reap what we sow. It is also justice that that He would not just allow some to go to hell to be eternally tormented, & some free- just on a whim???Just because He could, just because he felt like it?
Oh yea (rolling my eyes in sarcasm)- it's the sovereignty of God
Hmm there are these people that believe all these various things are "mysteries" classfied under sovereignty, some most important to salvation (and clear in the Bible)- YET somehow they can know that the gifts of the Holy Spirit aren't for today somehow God's will on that is knowable & clear.
Well this is just a piece of my sorting & debating.
The other side would take even more to write it out...
So I'm trying to make the effort to change physical churches.
I got more to write about
buuuut I also have Christmas decorations to put up ( as my little girl keeps reminding me
That last season was a lot of warfare, having to do with the nation & things going on with the church. Not that there is no more warfare needed, it's just a matter of focus. like it was heavy for me, thinking and praying & trying to sort out all this stuff about anti- Charismatics & then on the other hand Charismatics going to far. Trying to decide what point I am on the line. Trying to take a stand while still remaining reasonable & balanced. Making decisions regarding my kids. That really wasn't easy.
It's not easy saying goodbye and having to cut something off. Ug my husband always eggagerates me, and makes it sound like I'm so cold & etc. If he actually looked and perceived the truth and not just out of trying to maintain a certain view of me...
Anyway... I never just jump and move, it's always after agonizing, debating and rippping apart over it.
If it's a place or entity like " a church" or job etc. that's not the problem, but it's the people part that gets me. I really would like to stay connected w almost everyone. I'm global this way, I believe in a "big ticket", and very loyal when it comes to people. Wish I could stay in touch w everyone, that we all could be one "big happy family" etc.
So goodbyes are hard for me.
Then sometimes you have to do what's best for your ( & or your kids) walk w God, and then comes the agonizing & ripping.
There are really only a few people who have bothered me (like I find it hard to keep good memories of them) over the years... I miss most people.
It was tough, once a again great people- not so great teaching & perspective. It would be loong to get into detail over the whole problem with what was\is going around with positions on grace\God's wrath\judgement\the true meaning of love\ how to share the gospel\ the prophetic...
that is the main debate.
Then you've got the whole new debate over the "toking the ghost" movement and all (which includes some of the above topics).
Then there was the whole Calvinist\T U L I P debate (that I got into w my one son, and why I made the grieved choice to move the other on). Some of the Calvinist stuff I can overlook... even some of the anti- Charismatic stuff (esp when it comes to leaders in sin) BUT sorry I draw the line at teaching the Bible really doesn't say & mean that Jesus loved the WHOLE world and died for the sins of EVERYONE.
HA then right at that time also came up the issue of "Christian" universalism ( or I forgot what the other name of it is...) that in the end EVERYONE is going to heaven- sorry, NOT. Yet, these two CAN be reconciled.
Jesus died for everyone, but not everyone chooses to recieve His sacrifice for sins & follow him.
Neither did God pre-ORDAIN some to hell. That's not the God of the Bible, of love & justice. I know, some say a "loving God wouldn't send someone to hell"- well HE didn't- they sent themselves, by not choosing to believe the gospel which includes the way from keeping out of hell. A loving God provided a way out ( and more importantly a way to know Him, have a relationship with the creator, and a way to fulfill our puposes in life). And this is also the same God of justice who must allow us to suffer the ultimate consequences for our sins (unless we choose His way out) we must reap what we sow. It is also justice that that He would not just allow some to go to hell to be eternally tormented, & some free- just on a whim???Just because He could, just because he felt like it?
Oh yea (rolling my eyes in sarcasm)- it's the sovereignty of God
Hmm there are these people that believe all these various things are "mysteries" classfied under sovereignty, some most important to salvation (and clear in the Bible)- YET somehow they can know that the gifts of the Holy Spirit aren't for today somehow God's will on that is knowable & clear.
Well this is just a piece of my sorting & debating.
The other side would take even more to write it out...
So I'm trying to make the effort to change physical churches.
I got more to write about
buuuut I also have Christmas decorations to put up ( as my little girl keeps reminding me