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Revelation 13 And 17: Beast Rising Out Of The Earth

By Freth · Apr 2, 2021 · ·
  1. Beast Rising Up Out of the Earth

    Revelation 13:11-18 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
    • Beast. Kingdom or power.
    • Earth. Remember, the sea means peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues; a populated area. It stands to reason that the earth represents an unpopulated area, or sparsely populated area—the New World.
    • Two horns like a lamb. Speaks like a dragon. Lamb-like points to a God-fearing kingdom. Speaks like a dragon points its fulfillment of prophecy (see below).
    • Exercises all of the power of the first beast. Causes all who dwell on the earth to worship the first beast (Revelation 13:16). This beast will speak like a dragon, exercising the power of the dragon from the first beast and causing all who dwell on the earth to worship the first beast.
    • Does great wonders, even causing fire to come down from heaven on earth in the sight of men. This is symbolic of the power to do spiritual miracles (see next bullet); this is the false prophet (Revelation 16:13).
    • Deceives all that dwell on the earth by means of miracles he had power to do in the sight of the beast.
    • Saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make an image to the beast. A false worship system.
    • Had power to give life to the image of the beast, that it should both speak and cause those who would not worship the beast to be killed. Restrict buying and selling. Give life would be to give power to the beast of the sea (healing its deadly wound) and the false worship system, enforcing it under the threat of death. Not allow buying or selling unless you have the mark (false worship).
    There is only one beast that rises up out of the earth at around the same time that the beast of the sea is receiving its deadly wound. The United States. It has two horns like a lamb. Its civil and religious powers are separate. The healing of the deadly wound of the papacy is much to do with the help of the United States at key points in history. The most recent, which may well be the full healing, the pope's speech to the joint session of congress in 2015.

    The United States is the only power that has had utmost influence on the world. As a beacon of freedom and liberty, it has been like a lamb. How does the United States speak like a dragon? It exercises the power of the first beast (currently furthering papal causes, the forthcoming beast power and false worship). One could also cite the depravity of western culture and entertainment, which bears an eerie resemblance to the Colosseum entertainment of Rome. Look at Washington DC architecture and compare it to Vatican City—Roman architecture.

    In the next blog entry, we will take a look at the three angels' messages and expand upon the worship issue of the end time.


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  1. Chi.C
    Earth. Where the sea is pagan, the earth are where Judaic-Christianity has taken root. America was formed as a response to religious persecution. This was near a time the 2 witnesses (2 horns of a lamb) lost there sack cloths and was authorized (the Great Bible 1539) to be spoken at Church.
    Image of the beast parallels the image of God. It becomes a choice of who is your elohim. State vs God.

    The first beast speaks Civilization/Culture as the pinnacle of social order in its various forms. The second beast speaks of western Civilization/Culture as the pinnacle of social order. They are the same - not God. The second beast is the latest hegemon while the first beast are past hegemons - they however speak the same blasphemy - social order without God.
    Wonders - Power of life (genetics, biotech) and and death (nuclear weapons, weapons technology) were once solely the Providence of the Divine.