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Covenants Continued

  1. Romans 6:3-4
    3 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

    Baptized into Christ. Into his death & burial IN ORDER THAT (circle those words in your bible) as Christ was raised... we too may live a new life.

    Now where in the Bible does it talk about new life?

    2 Corinthians 5:17 - If anyone is in Christ they are a new creation!

    This is the power of baptism, the beginning point of the new birth and regeneration. Baptism.

    Again, allow me to explain. Many of you point to the thief on the cross as proof one doesn't need baptism to be saved, and while I may disagree with the reason, I have already stated and believe baptism isn't absolutely required for salvation.

    I do believe though that one must be baptized in obedience to Christ if they ever want to walk in the fullness of his blessing. What blessing is that? Deliverance from sin!

    Galatians 5:1
    It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery

    John 8:36
    So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

    Paul in Romans 6-7 (even 8 to an extent) teaches about this. Now for brevity sake I won't post all of that, but allow me to touch on it exactly. Paul started that portion of Romans with the reference to entering into Christ's death and burial in baptism. He pointed out that as Christ died to sin and it's power so he could live for God, we too should reckon ourselves dead to sin and alive to God because (back to verse 3-4) we have been baptized into Christ's death.

    Even in chapter 7 of Romans Paul writes in verses 4-6:

    4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

    We died to the law through the body of Christ (being baptized into Him - Romans 6:3-4; Gal 3:27) so we could bear fruit for God serving him in the new way of the Spirit! (John 4:24) Remember, God is Spirit and those who worship him (and serve him as priests) must do so in spirit and in truth!

    This is all accomplished in baptism!

    Why do you think so many in America profess Christ (latest figures put the number at around 80%) and yet there is so much wickedness and sin? And there is a LOT of sin that grieves God in this godless nation, and perhaps even around the world.

    I'm not going to say definitively that just by baptizing people that would change, but I will say from scripture, the moment a person is crucified with Christ (Gal 2:20) and sin's power over them is rendered null and void is when they are baptized. Because in baptism we join with Christ and clothe ourselves with Him (Romans 6:3-4; Gal 3:27; Col 2:11-13).

    Modern evangelism negates baptism and most probably never are baptized for whatever reason.

    Now sure, God can see the heart of an individual and see if their faith is genuine or not. I already stated and again affirm that people can in circumstances enter heaven I believe without being baptized. So I'm not saying baptism is necessary for salvation. Rather, I do believe baptism is a necessary element of being freed from sin and it's destructive power (Romans 6:3-14, 7:4-6; Gal 3:27, 5:1), so that we can serve God in the Spirit as he desires (Deut 30:6; John 4:24; Col 2:11-12; Phil 3:3).

    This is all done when we receive "the circumcision of Christ" as recorded in Colossians 2:11, when we are baptized into his death and burial so we can walk in new life as he did. Remember, according to scripture you can not be alive to God while uncircumcised in the flesh. This circumcision is accomplished (rather is started) in water baptism and is a continual process after that of being sanctified by the Spirit.


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  1. Greg Merrill
    I keep seeing this blog and the following four noted as being unread, though I have opened them a number of times now. This has been going on for about 3 days. Anybody else having this problem?
    1. Sam91
      I reported the dates of the blogs earlier as on my phone I only see these 5. I don't normally go to the dropdown menu to navigate the forum. This is a small hindrance as they are always pinned as the latest blogs because of the future date. The date might be causing the issue
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  2. Sam91
    Have you noticed the dates on your blogs?
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    1. ByTheSpirit
      Yeah, I meant for these to be posted in the future but I guess I did it wrong... :( Oh well
    2. Sam91
      Maybe you could change it so I can see other recent blogs? Not just yours?
    3. Mr. O
      No need to worry.