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Can I Lose My Salvation? Pt 1

By Theadorus, Jul 16, 2017 | Updated: Dec 7, 2017 | | |
  1. Can I Lose My Salvation pt 1.​

    This is a question many believers, including myself, have struggled with at some point throughout our Christian walk. Growing up I was in constant fear of losing my salvation, because from what I was understood, I was just one mistake away from losing it; and like many others out there this was something we were brought up to believe. Unfortunately this left me, and a lot of other people with the impression that our salvation wasn’t as secure as we thought it was, and that we lost it, or as some would call say, we “back slid” every time we committed a sin; and that if we just so happened to die while in this “back slidden” state we would go straight to hell – no questions asked.

    So, for anyone who grew up struggling with the security of their salvation, I just wanted to take the time to clarify what the Bible really says regarding this matter. So, to start off, the answer to the question is: No, we cannot "lose" our salvation, either by sinning it away, or by our lack of faithfulness towards God. You see, the Bible teaches us in Ephesians 1:13, and in 2 Corinthians 1:21-22, that the moment we believe on Christ, not only are we saved, but the Holy Spirit is then given to us (We were seal with The Holy Spirit) as a promise guaranteeing us our admission into Heaven; and this is an unconditional promise given to us with zero strings attached. So, when Jesus tells us, “whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has everlasting life (John 5:24),” He means just that, Everlasting life (An Everlasting relationship); and not everlasting up until the moment you commit your next sin either. So, the moment we receive salvation, it’s ours, and nothing can ever take that away from us.

    Let me illustrate it this way: picture the moment you got saved as though you and God just got married. Now, God, being a loving and faithful husband that he is will never be the one to divorce you. No matter how poorly you treat him, or no matter now unfaithful you are to him, he made a vow (promise) to you, and he intends to keep that promise "until death do us part", and beyond. So, because God will never be the one to divorce you, that means there is only one way out of that relationship, and that is if you are the one who files for divorce (Spitefully reject our Lord). So even as believers, if we were to completely turn our backs on God (Stop seeking the Lord), and just lived the rest of our lives in sin (as messed up as that would be), God would still be faithful to his promise and welcome us into heaven.

    Does that sound too good to be true? Well it isn’t. Paul verifies this in, 2 Timothy 2:11-14, and I want you to see this, but Paul goes onto tell Timothy,

    Note: (Emphasis mine)

    Verse 11: "Here is a trustworthy saying (notice Paul's' wording here. Everything Paul wrote about was the truth, but he specifically mention this because he was about say something that sounded too good to be true).

    If we died with him, we will also live with him (We died with Christ the moment we got born again, therefore we are going to live with him forever in heaven);

    Verse 12: If we endure, we will also reign with him (we may suffer now, but we'll reign with Christ in the end).

    If we deny (disown) him, he will also deny us (if we reject Him, reject his gift of salvation, he will reject us):"

    But, this is want I really want you to hear,

    Verse 13: "If we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself (This was illustrated in my marriage example)."

    You see, the moment we believe on Christ, the same Spirit (The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God himself) that rose Christ from the dead now lives within us (Romans 8:11). And, the moment we get born again our old man, or spirit dies, and our new spirit becomes one (united in singularity) with God's Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:17). And so because God now resides within us as permanent part of who we are as believers (1 Corinthians 6:19); therefore if God were to ever disown (reject) us as believers, it would be as though God were rejecting himself. Another thing I want to point out is that our covenant of salvation was not made between God and us directly. It was made between God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. We simply come into their covenant through faith. We are participating in their covenant that they made between themselves. So when we fail to believe as we should, or we become discouraged in our faith and stop seeking God, God is still faithful to Himself. He has sworn that He will never leave us nor forsake us (Hebrews 13:5), and He won’t. He will not be the one to divorce us, regardless of how unfaithful we are. Again, we have to divorce Him. Christians who simply slow down, become discouraged, or fail to move forward are not in danger of the Lord denying them. But those who go in the other direction and continue to do so until they become hard-hearted (Their hearts become hardened by sin) and willfully reject the Lord will become reprobate (Romans 1:28. Don't worry, there are qualifications one needs to first meet in order for this to happen. This isn't something that can be done by accident, either).

    And that right there just completely blows my mind, and testifies to how faithful and amazing our God is.

    So, to recap: No, a Christian cannot lose their salvation, either my mistake, or by making mistakes. It takes more of an effort on our end to get God to change his relationship status with us.

    So, before I conclude this post, I’m sure there is someone out there is wondering about Hebrews 6:4, and Hebrews 10:26, so without getting too into it, just let me say this: yes, it’s true that we cannot “lose” our salvation, but just like how God did not force us to get saved in the first place, God will not force us to stay saved either; and so, If we really wanted to we can do what the Bible calls “renounce/forsake” our salvation, but I’m going to stop right there. Don’t worry I’ll talk about more these verses in a later post.

    I hope this was a blessing to anyone who read this, and if there are any questions about what I wrote about, you can go ahead and place them in the comment section below and I’ll do my best to answer any questions you have.

    God Bless!


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  1. stuart lawrence
    I was as you once were. I believed if I committed any sin I was in danger of the fires of hell.
    It is living under a strict righteousness of observing the law isn't it.
    Praise God for opening yours, and my eyes to grace.
    God bless
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    1. Theadorus
      Amen, Brother! It's a scary thing to live that way. Eventually I just gave up. A lot my teen friends who went to the same church as I did have in some way stopped serving God. Our only motivation was fear, which translated to us never truly having a relationship with God, but rather, only serving him out of fear of going to Hell.
  2. Fish Catcher Jim
    Only for those who keep His Word
    Hebrew 6:4-6
    For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
    And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
    If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

    Born Again Believer Through trickery of our enemy began to listen to the lies and Deception of the enemy and paid no attention to scripture
    Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; (Imaginations are thoughts.)

    They keep ignoring the Holy Spirit and is drawn further away from the things of God until one day they just don't care anymore.
    The Holy Spirit Will Leave and once this happens satan returns worse then before they were saved.
    Mathew 12:44-46
    Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
    Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
    Now they are out of God's Will. the enemy knows if he can get you dead, he has you and he will set you up.
    Matthew 7 : 22-23
    21Not everyone who calls me their Lord will get into the kingdom of heaven. Only the ones who obey my Father in heaven will get in. 22On the day of judgment many will call me their Lord. They will say, “We preached in your name, and in your name we forced out demons and worked many miracles.” 23But I will tell them, “I will have nothing to do with you! Get out of my sight, you evil people!”

    This once saved always saved is a doctrine of demons passed on to the church.
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    2. Fish Catcher Jim
      Exactly but works has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Also getting born again is the only part of our salvation that works are not a part of
    3. amariselle
      I am confused as to what you're actually getting at, but as this is someone's personal blog, I will not be commenting further. Blessings.
    4. Theadorus
      Hey, FCJ, I appreciate your comments, and like I mentioned, I'll be addressing Hebrews 6:4-6 when I get around to writing my part 2. As for Matt 7:21-23, Amariselle is right, the key words in that verse are, "I never knew you, or in other words "I never had a relationship with you."
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  3. amariselle
    It is truly good and wonderful news that our salvation is not about what we do or don't do, but about faith in what Christ has done. :)

    Thank you for this post.
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    1. Theadorus
      Amen, Sister. If any of it were up to me I'd be doomed.

      You are very welcome!
  4. God is good
    Thank you for the post, please pray that I will stay close to God, please pray that my love for God will get bigger. Thank you and God bless
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    1. Theadorus
      This is my prayer for you, I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God. (Ephesians 3:17-19).
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