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[SmellsLikeCurlyFries]

Has anyone heard of Taylor Caldwell? I came across her name for the first time recently and someone said she's like what Ayn Rand would have been if she were a Christian.

Does she have any stuff on Mises.org?

 

[Nilloc]

Does she have any stuff on Mises.org?

I haven't checked yet, but I doubt it. I have no idea what her views are. She was only described as a Christian Ayn Rand. Now there's probably a number of ways to take that, but I immediately think of Rand's political views so that's why I asked.

 

[SmellsLikeCurlyFries]

Hm...I'll look into her. Thanks!

 

[Nilloc]

Holy crap. So this kinda stuff happens all the time? Glad I don't have an income (as far as Washington is concerned) so I don't have to put up with crap like this.

Kerry Martin, IRS Crook - YouTube
IRS Crooks (and Santorum) - YouTube

 

[DieHappy]

Suzanne Collins' "The Hunger Games" Illustrates the Horrors of Big Government - Forbes

Excellent article

 

[Nilloc]

Suzanne Collins' "The Hunger Games" Illustrates the Horrors of Big Government - Forbes

Excellent article

I just read the first two chapters of The Hunger Games last night. When I realized that the story's antagonist was an evil totalitarian government that impoverishes people, forbids them from doing things that are completely harmless, and from owning weapons I thought: Yeah, I think I'm gonna like this.

 

[MacFall]

It gets even clearer in the third book when

Spoiler: ...

the revolutionary government ends up being just as bad or worse than the Capitol, and it is individual resistance to both of them that enables people to be free when it is all over.

Unfortunately the books get progressively less well-written as they go on. I think the publisher rushed publication after the unpredicted success of the first one, and they suffer for it. Still, well worth reading.

I'm going to the premiere of the movie tonight. I'll let y'all know how it holds up.

 

[MacFall]

I'll let y'all know how it holds up.

Worth seeing in the theater.

 

[zoink]

I love Larkin Rose but he probably should back of the tire iron stuff...

 

[Nilloc]

I love Larkin Rose but he probably should back of the tire iron stuff...

Yeah . . . that was sorta weird. But that tax stuff, sheesh.

 

[Nilloc]

So what does everyone think of Rand Paul? I ask because I just saw an Adam Kokesh video (which I would post but has quite a bit of profanity in and I don't wanna get banned. One time I got a warning for just using asterisks) where he plays a clip from Scott Horton, the guy behind anti-war.com, about Rand Paul. First the anti-war Horton said he'd like Rand Paul to be thrown from so high all of his bones would break. And then says: "He is a horrible, terrible person. It's arguable whether he's a human being at all" (which I think sounds like something Mr. Harry S. Plinkett would say about George Lucas). I don't know a lot about Rand's views, though I know he isn't as libertarian as Ron, but that really seems extreme.

 

[SmellsLikeCurlyFries]

So what does everyone think of Rand Paul? I ask because I just saw an Adam Kokesh video (which I would post but has quite a bit of profanity in and I don't wanna get banned. One time I got a warning for just using asterisks) where he plays a clip from Scott Horton, the guy behind anti-war.com, about Rand Paul. First the anti-war Horton said he'd like Rand Paul to be thrown from so high all of his bones would break. And then says: "He is a horrible, terrible person. It's arguable whether he's a human being at all" (which I think sounds like something Mr. Harry S. Plinkett would say about George Lucas). I don't know a lot about Rand's views, though I know he isn't as libertarian as Ron, but that really seems extreme.

Wow. That does sound pretty extreme...

My views on Rand are mixed. He's nowhere near the man his father is, that much is certain. But some of the things he's said have gotten me a bit concerned.

This article is a bit biased, but I can verify that the quotes are indeed accurate. Then there's this one from Reason, one of my favorite news/commentary sources, that basically comes to the same conclusion.

 

[DieHappy]

I just read the first two chapters of The Hunger Games last night. When I realized that the story's antagonist was an evil totalitarian government that impoverishes people, forbids them from doing things that are completely harmless, and from owning weapons I thought: Yeah, I think I'm gonna like this.

I had no interest in a "young adult" book but, much like Harry Potter, my wife thrust it into my hands and said "read this because you're taking me to the movie when it come out."

Oh, the second amendment rants I went on as I read this.

I actually really liked the first book. It was well written. Like MacFall said, the writing suffers as it goes on and it's a shame because the story should only get better. I wonder if she was scared to make too many points about individual liberty, or just didn't know how to write the story of a 17 year old girl who doesn't want to be the hero, or I just don't know how to read the story of a 17 year old girl. I had to remind myself that she's a child and not Steven Segal several times during the third book.

I actually think either she or her publisher started to get scared of the whiny liberals accusing her of pushing republican propaganda if she spent any time on individual liberty.

Worth seeing in the theater.

Going tonight.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

So what does everyone think of Rand Paul? I ask because I just saw an Adam Kokesh video (which I would post but has quite a bit of profanity in and I don't wanna get banned. One time I got a warning for just using asterisks) where he plays a clip from Scott Horton, the guy behind anti-war.com, about Rand Paul. First the anti-war Horton said he'd like Rand Paul to be thrown from so high all of his bones would break. And then says: "He is a horrible, terrible person. It's arguable whether he's a human being at all" (which I think sounds like something Mr. Harry S. Plinkett would say about George Lucas). I don't know a lot about Rand's views, though I know he isn't as libertarian as Ron, but that really seems extreme.

Oh my! There isn't anybody in the world that I would say that about! Even my worst enemies I see as human beings, and there is no one I would wish harm to merely because of ideological disagreements. OTOH, if they attack me, I do believe in retaliatory force.

 

[MacFall]

Yeah, Horton (whom I generally like) went off the rail there. Scott, I am disappoint.

 

[Nilloc]

Now if MacFall will just get me over the Romans 13:1-7 and Matthew 21:21 hump so I can become an agorist and get some bitcoins.

I came across this article earlier and it seems to pertain to your understandings of the render unto Caesar passage and paying taxes. I haven't read it yet, because it's over 24,000 words long, but I skimmed through it and it seems to deal with all of the NT passages that talk about the state. You may read this already. If so, sorry for bothering you with it.

Jesus Is an Anarchist, by James Redford -- anti-state.com

 

[zoink]

I came across this article earlier and it seems to pertain to your understandings of the render unto Caesar passage and paying taxes. I haven't read it yet, because it's over 24,000 words long, but I skimmed through it and it seems to deal with all of the NT passages that talk about the state. You may read this already. If so, sorry for bothering you with it.

Jesus Is an Anarchist, by James Redford -- anti-state.com

Yes, so bothersome.

Thanks, I'll take a peek. That one might be long enough to put on my kindle.

 

[MacFall]

I'm gonna look for a PDF version of that. Looks interesting.

 

[Nilloc]

I'm gonna look for a PDF version of that. Looks interesting.

Here ya go. http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

 

[MacFall]

Yay