Why won't God meet me on my terms?

[Cieza]

I've had many people tell me that God doesn't "perform parlor tricks" or that God will not meet me on my terms, only on his terms. If I am to say I will only meet God on my terms, then how is what I'm doing any different from what God is doing?

My terms are very simple for God or anyone else who both knows everything and can easily communicate with humans.

See http://www.christianforums.com/t7613145/ for more on this.

I ask:

This thread is for asking God questions. Since there are Christians in here who claim to be able to communicate with God, we'll count on them to ask the questions and then post God's answer when they get a response from God.

First question is to test God's knowledge:
What polar direction am I sitting in as I type this?
West, southwest, south, southeast, east, northeast, north or northwest?

Yet after 16 pages, no one comes back with a response from God. Why would God be so reluctant to do something which would move one closer to believing God exists?

 

[food4thought]

He is God, not a jenie.

You are a man, not God.

/thread

 

[aiki]

I've had many people tell me that God doesn't "perform parlor tricks" or that God will not meet me on my terms, only on his terms. If I am to say I will only meet God on my terms, then how is what I'm doing any different from what God is doing?

It's no different. But you aren't God.

Selah.

 

[Whisper of Hope]

He is God, not a jenie.

You are a man, not God.

/thread

It's no different. But you aren't God.

Selah.

Amen!

 

[Bear.Fr00t]

Shall the one who contends with the Almighty correct Him? He who rebukes God, let him answer it. (Job 40:2)

 

[drich0150]

I've had many people tell me that God doesn't "perform parlor tricks" or that God will not meet me on my terms, only on his terms. If I am to say I will only meet God on my terms, then how is what I'm doing any different from what God is doing?

If the President decides to declare war on North Korea what happens?
The military mobilizes and people die.

Now what would happen if you decide to personally declare war on North Korea?
Would anything happen differently in this country or that one? Why not?

In a word; Authority.

In this case the President has the Authority to declare war on another country, and you do not. The Same thing is true but on a much larger scale when speaking with the Creator of everything. You as a member of creation do not have the authority to dictate terms to the Creator. He however has dictated terms to you. Your primary obstacle in the terms He has dictated to all of us is Humility. You have to learn to humble yourself before God, and allow Him to lift you up. Otherwise know you will die in your pride dooming yourself to eternal separation from God.

 

[Whisper of Hope]

If the President decides to declare war on North Korea what happens?
The military mobilizes and people die.

Now what would happen if you decide to personally declare war on North Korea?
Would anything happen differently in this country or that one? Why not?

In a word; Authority.

In this case the President has the Authority to declare war on another country, and you do not. The Same thing is true but on a much larger scale when speaking with the Creator of everything. You as a member of creation do not have the authority to dictate terms to the Creator. He however has dictated terms to you. Your primary obstacle in the terms He has dictated to all of us is Humility. You have to learn to humble yourself before God, and allow Him to lift you up. Otherwise know you will die in your pride dooming yourself to eternal separation from God.

Amen.

 

[leftrightleftrightleft]

In a word: Authority.

/thread

 

[Whisper of Hope]

/thread

Huh?

 

[razeontherock]

God will not meet me on my terms

Why? Because He is G-d, and we are not.

That IS your answer, no need to keep looking. He wants this acknowledgment.
Now contrast that to the way you've been thinking:

If I am to say I will only meet God on my terms, then how is what I'm doing any different from what God is doing?

You are demanding that G-d Himself acknowledge you, as G-d, or as His equal. Not gonna happen buddy. This was Lucifer's mistake! (Ya know, those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it and all that)

 

[drich0150]

You are demanding that G-d Himself acknowledge you, as G-d, or as His equal. Not gonna happen buddy. This was Lucifer's mistake! (Ya know, those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it and all that)[/quote]

 

[oi_antz]

Great question Cieza, millions of times better than "what polar direction am I facing?". You might come to understand God better in this thread

 

[Cieza]

It's no different. But you aren't God.

Selah.

If I'm stubbornly insisting that God meet me on my terms, then God is stubbornly insisting that I meet God on his terms. Is being stubborn a quality that God would be proud to have? More importantly, if God is real, then he can do anything. So deviating from his stubbornness would be far easy for him than it would be for me.

Why is God so stubborn?

 

[Cieza]

If the President decides to declare war on North Korea what happens?
The military mobilizes and people die.

Now what would happen if you decide to personally declare war on North Korea?
Would anything happen differently in this country or that one? Why not?

In a word; Authority.

In this case the President has the Authority to declare war on another country, and you do not. The Same thing is true but on a much larger scale when speaking with the Creator of everything. You as a member of creation do not have the authority to dictate terms to the Creator. He however has dictated terms to you. Your primary obstacle in the terms He has dictated to all of us is Humility. You have to learn to humble yourself before God, and allow Him to lift you up. Otherwise know you will die in your pride dooming yourself to eternal separation from God.

I'm not declaring war on God. If God knows what I'm thinking, then he already knows that I have dictated terms to him. I guess whether or not I have the authority to do that is moot, as I've already done it.

 

[Cieza]

Why? Because He is G-d, and we are not.

That IS your answer, no need to keep looking. He wants this acknowledgment.
Now contrast that to the way you've been thinking:



You are demanding that G-d Himself acknowledge you, as G-d, or as His equal. Not gonna happen buddy. This was Lucifer's mistake! (Ya know, those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it and all that)

So God won't meet me on my terms because he is God.

Do you know want to know why I won't meet God on his terms? Because I am me. Given your answer, I'd say you should now understand why I won't meet God on his terms.

 

[Cieza]

Great question Cieza, millions of times better than "what polar direction am I facing?". You might come to understand God better in this thread

Thanks for being one of the few who is humble enough to acknowledge that it is a great question.

 

[oi_antz]

If I'm stubbornly insisting that God meet me on my terms, then God is stubbornly insisting that I meet God on his terms. Is being stubborn a quality that God would be proud to have? More importantly, if God is real, then he can do anything. So deviating from his stubbornness would be far easy for him than it would be for me.

Why is God so stubborn?

I think if you are a king you will be looking for certain qualities in your recruits. If someone refuses to comply with your requirements then why waste both their time and yours when you know they aren't suitable?

 

[oi_antz]

Thanks for being one of the few who is humble enough to acknowledge that it is a great question.

Hmmm, it might seem that way to you but to me I didn't have to struggle with pride to say that. It is good to see you are determined to understand it. There was a time when I thought you were just trolling, I think this thread proves that you are seriously feeling agitated by the situation you are in, that's good because when you have all the information you can make a well informed decision I think it was easier for me because I had Christian teaching as a child, so I learned the nature of God very young. I went away from Christianity for a while though when I wanted something that God didn't want to give me, but eventually I realized the folly of worldly wants and Jesus welcomed me back like a long lost son. Well anyway I wish you all the best while you get to the bottom of it

 

[razeontherock]

So God won't meet me on my terms because he is God.

Do you know want to know why I won't meet God on his terms? Because I am me.

The word for this is "pride." As evidenced:

Given your answer, I'd say you should now understand why I won't meet God on his terms.

You see, the stated purpose of this sub-forum is not to grandstand why you won't meet God in His terms, but to ... explore Christianity. It's ok though; life circumstances humble us all, sooner or later. Even Christopher Hitchens!

 

[ViaCrucis]

I've had many people tell me that God doesn't "perform parlor tricks" or that God will not meet me on my terms, only on his terms. If I am to say I will only meet God on my terms, then how is what I'm doing any different from what God is doing?

I figure like any good parent, one doesn't simply meet the demands of their child when the child is acting bratty.

Of course that's not a theological or philosophical response, just an off-the-cuff and partially tongue-in-cheek one.

What sort of answer do you want to receive here?

-CryptoLutheran