Why Mass going Catholics (and Mormons) are abandoning Donald Trump

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I think that before we consider a politician's positions, we need to consider his or her character--the integrity and fitness to govern.

I know that many people have concerns about the character of both major party candidates--and they are free to choose other candidates.

My doubts about Trump's character would preclude my ever voting for him, even if his positions were closer to my own.

I think that Hillary has made minor errors in judgment. I am unconcerned about the foundation, and the State Department said there is absolutely NO evidence of impropriety in her meetings while Secretary of State.

Sadly, this is the way the world works--and some of us have even benefited from it ourselves from time to time. In the work world it's called "networking." My husband, with one semester of college, got a job as a computer programmer trainee through my uncle (whose company usually only hired college graduates for IT jobs). My uncle didn't get him the "job," but he got him the interview, and his aptitude scores were so high he got himself the job (he was also a Vietnam vet). That job led him, eventually, to the vice presidency of two other companies--that early foot in the door (and networking helped him when he was unemployed).

Building relationships is an important skill to a successful life (yes, and many people even use their contacts in church for upward mobility, and some even GO to church to build those relationships, regardless of how strong their faith is).

If the world operated differently, I would criticize the Clinton Foundation, but I would defy you to find a single politician or official in Washington who acts differently.
 
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I'm a Mass going Catholic, and I plan to vote for Trump since Hillary Clinton would be a disaster for Christians. Forbes is a secular publication. Everyone knows that the secular media is in the tank for Hillary Clinton. They don't even try to hide it.
 
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I'm a Mass going Catholic, and I plan to vote for Trump since Hillary Clinton would be a disaster for Christians. Forbes is a secular publication. Everyone knows that the secular media is in the tank for Hillary Clinton. They don't even try to hide it.

If the american people especially christians dont stop this slide into christiphobia in America and in your forign policy we are going to see a full scale persecution of christians throughout the western world and a total enslavement of all people around the world.

Sometimes Americans forget their great responsibility as their Government is the sole superpower..the fact we are in a unipolar world means who you vote for has consequences for the entire world
 
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If the american people especially christians dont stop this slide into christiphobia in America and in your forign policy we are going to see a full scale persecution of christians throughout the western world and a total enslavement of all people around the world.

Sometimes Americans forget their great responsibility as their Government is the sole superpower..the fact we are in a unipolar world means who you vote for has consequences for the entire world

^^^truer words have never been spoken. we are far closer than most believe to seeing such open, government-approved abuse of Christians. and the way that begins is with the abuse of the voting public.

honestly the way the press is playing this election, it is beginning to sound more and more like we have been transported to communist Russia, where the vote is predetermined to elect the party candidate.
We have more to loose in this election than we realize, but the most important thing to preserve is the right to choose who will lead us.

If Hillary is elected, it could very well be the end of democracy and the beginning of socialism where the government tells us what we are to believe. I don't want that and I hope that the rest of you don't either.
 
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Is trump prfect not at all. There are many things about him that concerns me. Is he for real in the things he is promising and will he like so many other of your presidents betray the american voter and continue this slide... i dont know. If he is elected will he be able to do battle with the power structure in place.... i dont know
If he is elected will he himself become a tyranical monster... i dont know.

But hillary i know will promise anything abd everything to be president. I know she will betray the american voter she will continue the slide and do the bidding of the power structure and she is already without the power of the presidency a monster and disciple of saul alinsky who wrote

"very first radical: from all our legends, mythology and history the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer."
 
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If Hillary is elected, it could very well be the end of democracy and the beginning of socialism where the government tells us what we are to believe. I don't want that and I hope that the rest of you don't either.
Remember when these exact claims were being made about Obama? Some people would learn from the failure of those dire predictions.
 
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Media spin... well just outright lies... offering the illusion trump can not win so when they rigg the election its accepted
EXACTLY.
 
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I'm a Mass going Catholic, and I plan to vote for Trump since Hillary Clinton would be a disaster for Christians. Forbes is a secular publication. Everyone knows that the secular media is in the tank for Hillary Clinton. They don't even try to hide it.
She'd finish the horrendous task Obama started.
Same ilk.
Control the people.
 
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Who's ending democracy? Could it be the state of Ohio who sued to end early voting because the only way Republicans can win Iis by keeping minorities from voting?

Morally bankrupt oligarchs. Voter suppression is the enemy of democracy.
 
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Cos the world is a much better place thanks to obama
Nice Strawman. You can dislike Obama all you want, I sure do. But the predictions of how he was going to "destroy the US" and usher in a communist dictatorship, and literally be the antiChrist?
 
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Nice Strawman. You can dislike Obama all you want, I sure do. But the predictions of how he was going to "destroy the US" and usher in a communist dictatorship, and literally be the antiChrist?

Yeah your right he has been doing that. Iv never seen so much communist modus operandi in the united states before
 
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Keep digging?

I will end up in oz if i keep digging.. i dont know what that means.... i feel like i should know what it means but i just have no clue what your talking about
Keep misrepresenting what was said.
 
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