why do you think natural selection has filled the world with religious people?

Aman777

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Because "scripture" is entirely fabricated, that's why.

Then please explain HOW ancient men, of more than 3k years ago, KNEW that the cities built by Noah's great grandsons, and documented in Gen 10, were the FIRST Human cities on this Planet, and History agrees. Most people today, with ALL the information available, still cannot name the First Human cities, correctly. Since NO ancient person could have correctly written of the FIRST Human cities, can you explain HOW the Author knew they were the First cities built on our Earth?

HOW did the Author know that the cities remains in the area just South of Lake Van, Turkey, in the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia, were the FIRST, since ancient men did NOT know what was on the other side of the Earth? And yet the Author, God Himself, knew and correctly named those first Human cities. It's PROOF of God. Amen?
 
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Then please explain HOW ancient men, of more than 3k years ago, KNEW that the cities built by Noah's great grandsons, and documented in Gen 10, were the FIRST Human cities on this Planet, and History agrees. Most people today, with ALL the information available, still cannot name the First Human cities, correctly. Since NO ancient person could have correctly written of the FIRST Human cities, can you explain HOW the Author knew they were the First cities built on our Earth?

HOW did the Author know that the cities remains in the area just South of Lake Van, Turkey, in the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia, were the FIRST, since ancient men did NOT know what was on the other side of the Earth? And yet the Author, God Himself, knew and correctly named those first Human cities. It's PROOF of God. Amen?

Which cities are these, and what evidence is there that they were founded by Noah's grandsons. In fact, what evidence do you have that Noah existed? After all, we know enough to know that the global flood never happened. Why should we believe that Noah existed?
 
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Which cities are these, and what evidence is there that they were founded by Noah's grandsons. In fact, what evidence do you have that Noah existed? After all, we know enough to know that the global flood never happened. Why should we believe that Noah existed?

Here are the oldest Human cities according to God AND the History of Human civilization. The verse is speaking of Nimrod, the son of Cush, one of Noah's grandsons who married and produced children with the descendants of the sons of God (prehistoric people) on our Planet exactly as happened to Cain, on Adam's Earth. Gen 6:4 It's because Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry. Nimrod, like Enoch on Adam's world was a first generation Human. (descendant of the common ancestor of ALL Humans, Adam)

Gen 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Babel was dismantled but Erech is considered by History to be one of the oldest Human cities on this Earth. Ancient Uruk -- Biblical Erech -- Arabic Warka, is still there to be touched and examined as Science demands, but people have misunderstood the story of Noah's Flood.

The global flood totally destroyed Adam's world (Kosmos) ll Peter 3:3-7 and "
clean dissolved" Adam's Earth. Isa 24:19 This released the 450 foot long Ark from the interior of Adam's small firmament into Lake Van, Turkey in the mountains of Ararat 11k years ago. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html History AGREES. Be careful of believing the religious views of ancient men and read God's Truth for yourself since God's Holy Word is the Truth in EVERY way. Amen?
 
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Then please explain HOW ancient men, of more than 3k years ago, KNEW that the cities built by Noah's great grandsons, and documented in Gen 10, were the FIRST Human cities on this Planet, and History agrees. Most people today, with ALL the information available, still cannot name the First Human cities, correctly. Since NO ancient person could have correctly written of the FIRST Human cities, can you explain HOW the Author knew they were the First cities built on our Earth?

HOW did the Author know that the cities remains in the area just South of Lake Van, Turkey, in the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia, were the FIRST, since ancient men did NOT know what was on the other side of the Earth? And yet the Author, God Himself, knew and correctly named those first Human cities. It's PROOF of God. Amen?
Do you have an example?
 
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You're quoting the bible to demonstrate the bible is true.

False since You asked:>>
HitchSlap said:
Do you have an example?

Below is the example I left in post #903.

>>>Gen 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Babel was dismantled but Erech is considered by History to be one of the oldest Human cities on this Earth. Ancient Uruk -- Biblical Erech -- Arabic Warka, is still there to be touched and examined as Science demands, but people have misunderstood the story of Noah's Flood.<<<<<<<<<

When the Bible AGREES with secular History, it is no longer a myth, but a Historic Fact. Amen?
 
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False since You asked:>>
HitchSlap said:
Do you have an example?

Below is the example I left in post #903.

>>>Gen 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Babel was dismantled but Erech is considered by History to be one of the oldest Human cities on this Earth. Ancient Uruk -- Biblical Erech -- Arabic Warka, is still there to be touched and examined as Science demands, but people have misunderstood the story of Noah's Flood.<<<<<<<<<

When the Bible AGREES with secular History, it is no longer a myth, but a Historic Fact. Amen?
Why do you see this as proof for the bible? Just because John Grisham mentions New York city in a novel, doesn't make the story history.
 
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You're quoting the bible to demonstrate the bible is true.
What's wrong with that?

It's called "corroboration."

The Bible consists of 66 books, written over a period of some 1500-4000 years, by some 40 authors.

When one book corroborates another, it is called "corroboration."

Doesn't the encyclopedia corroborate itself?
 
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Why do you see this as proof for the bible? Just because John Grisham mentions New York city in a novel, doesn't make the story history.

It's because this is the first historic EVIDENCE of farming on this Earth. Farming is a Human trait and Adam farmed with NO evolution. Gen 3:19 Cain was also a farmer and built the first city and named it after his son, Enoch. Gen 4:17 Cain's descendants had musical instruments, lived in tents, and made bronze and iron, with very little evolution and without the billions of positive mutations which changes Apes into Humans according to Godless Evolutionism.

That's the way it is with the descendants of Adam (Humans). It's because Adam had a mind like God's Gen 3:22 and ALL Humans (descendants of Adam) have INHERITED his unique superior intelligence to ANY other living creature. That makes Humans Special and shows that we did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes as Godless Evolutionists falsely force teach our children. Amen?
 
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It's because this is the first historic EVIDENCE of farming on this Earth. Farming is a Human trait and Adam farmed with NO evolution. Gen 3:19 Cain was also a farmer and built the first city and named it after his son, Enoch. Gen 4:17 Cain's descendants had musical instruments, lived in tents, and made bronze and iron, with very little evolution and without the billions of positive mutations which changes Apes into Humans according to Godless Evolutionism.

That's the way it is with the descendants of Adam (Humans). It's because Adam had a mind like God's Gen 3:22 and ALL Humans (descendants of Adam) have INHERITED his unique superior intelligence to ANY other living creature. That makes Humans Special and shows that we did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes as Godless Evolutionists falsely force teach our children. Amen?
It shows no such thing.
 
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Where is the evidence to back up this claim?

Also, it is what the Bible says, not God.

Your error is demonstrated by your Failure to refute the Fact that Genesis tells us scientific Facts, one of which was just announced THIS year. Can you explain HOW mortal men wrote of the Future 3k years ago and wrote of Scientific discoveries which are FUTURE to 2015? In fact, you don't seem to have anything but disagreement, backed up only by your scientific "beliefs". Amen?
 
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Please present evidence to back these claims.

I have God's Word for it and God's Word IS Truth, Jhn 14:6 and YOU cannot refute it. I'm sorry for your agreement with the serpent in the Garden whose first words were:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Questioning God's Holy Word is the beginning of sin. Amen?
 
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What's wrong with that?

It's called "corroboration."

The Bible consists of 66 books, written over a period of some 1500-4000 years, by some 40 authors.

When one book corroborates another, it is called "corroboration."

Doesn't the encyclopedia corroborate itself?

But of course -- because the people who wrote the encyclopedia had earlier version to work with.

Same with the Bible -- the New Testament Authors even admitted it, not that anyone cares.
 
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But of course -- because the people who wrote the encyclopedia had earlier version to work with.
Then don't tell me the Bible is circular logic and expect me to believe it.
 
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Then don't tell me the Bible is circular logic and expect me to believe it.

Rest assured, AV -- the only time I am interested in what you believe or not is for entertainment value.

What I am telling you is that the Bible "corroborates" with itself so well because the authors of the later books made sure what they wrote corroborated with the earlier books. Now, if doing that meant some historical accuracy got tossed aside in the name of corroboration, well, ain't that a shame?
 
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What I am telling you is that the Bible "corroborates" with itself so well because the authors of the later books made sure what they wrote corroborated with the earlier books. Now, if doing that meant some historical accuracy got tossed aside in the name of corroboration, well, ain't that a shame?
However you think it happened -- by hook or by crook -- the Bible is not circular logic.

In fact, what you just described is nothing more than what scientists do today.

They calibrate their equipment and program their computers to conform to each other.

In my entertaining-to-you opinion.
 
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