I am not creating this thread to dispute the widely held Christian belief that God promised the land of Israel to the Jews, when he told Abraham that he was giving him the land. What I'm saying is this.
Jewish is not simply a religion or an ethnicity. It is both an ethnicity and a religion (ethnoreligious) and a cultural group too. You can be Jewish ethnically and not religious-usually people are both. You can be considered a Jew because your mother was either a Jew ethnically or religious, and pass on Jewishness to descendants because of that, as part of ethnicity, regardless if you practice the religion or not. And there are some people (this could apply to people of any ethnicity or race-even Sammy Davis Jr was a Jew), who convert to Judaism and become Jews because of that.
There are jews in places far away from the Holy Land of the bible-people who arent even descendants of the ancient Hebrews, but converted to the religion. There are jews in africa, Ashenazi Jews are white (technically mixed race because of intermarrying-but still related to ancient Hebrews) There are even Chinese and Japanese people who converted to Judaism and are considered Jews-theyre a very small minority-but they exist.
Do God's promises of giving the land to the Jews also apply to people who converted to Judaism but are not descendants of the ancient Israelites? Do those promises apply to those who are not practicing Jews but are considered ethnically Jewish because of their mother (not even sure if that rule of determining Jewishness existed in bibical times or is a more recent cultural tradition.)
There's no doubt that the state of Israel is the land that God promised the Jews millenia ago, but do you think God's promise give them the land for many generations applies people who fall under any definition of Jewishness, or just those who are ethnically related to the Ancient Hebrews in some way?
Jewish is not simply a religion or an ethnicity. It is both an ethnicity and a religion (ethnoreligious) and a cultural group too. You can be Jewish ethnically and not religious-usually people are both. You can be considered a Jew because your mother was either a Jew ethnically or religious, and pass on Jewishness to descendants because of that, as part of ethnicity, regardless if you practice the religion or not. And there are some people (this could apply to people of any ethnicity or race-even Sammy Davis Jr was a Jew), who convert to Judaism and become Jews because of that.
There are jews in places far away from the Holy Land of the bible-people who arent even descendants of the ancient Hebrews, but converted to the religion. There are jews in africa, Ashenazi Jews are white (technically mixed race because of intermarrying-but still related to ancient Hebrews) There are even Chinese and Japanese people who converted to Judaism and are considered Jews-theyre a very small minority-but they exist.
Do God's promises of giving the land to the Jews also apply to people who converted to Judaism but are not descendants of the ancient Israelites? Do those promises apply to those who are not practicing Jews but are considered ethnically Jewish because of their mother (not even sure if that rule of determining Jewishness existed in bibical times or is a more recent cultural tradition.)
There's no doubt that the state of Israel is the land that God promised the Jews millenia ago, but do you think God's promise give them the land for many generations applies people who fall under any definition of Jewishness, or just those who are ethnically related to the Ancient Hebrews in some way?
