who here plans to vote third party

[dogs4thewin]

Who here would whether vote third party than not vote ( supposeding that you do not support either major party?)

 

[stamperben]

If it's not Bernie I'm voting Green.

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[dogs4thewin]

If it's not Bernie I'm voting Green.

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Yeah I cannot decide whether to vote for Trump or Libertain. On the one hand, I do not like Trump, but on the other hand he is much more likely to win than ANY third party.

 

[stamperben]

Yeah I cannot decide whether to vote for Trump or Libertain. On the one hand, I do not like Trump, but on the other hand he is much more likely to win than ANY third party.

The same could be said about Hillary, but as much as I abhor Trump I can not overlook who she is and what she's done.

 

[Vylo]

Chance I will vote Johnson if he can pull up some good numbers.

 

[Kersh]

I'll likely vote for Johnson. I will absolutely not vote for Hillary or Trump.

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[dogs4thewin]

I'll likely vote for Johnson. I will absolutely not vote for Hillary or Trump.

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He is the Liberarian correct?

 

[Kersh]

He is the Liberarian correct?

Yes.

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[stamperben]

Chance I will vote Johnson if he can pull up some good numbers.

Why if he can pull up good numbers? What's that even mean? Good numbers come from support, either you support someone or not.

 

[Vylo]

Why if he can pull up good numbers? What's that even mean? Good numbers come from support, either you support someone or not.

Meaning if he's polling well. If no one is going to support him, no sense in wasting my time when I have bigger, oranger fish to fry.

 

[Willtor]

I'ma go with Stamperben, here. Jill Stein is probably my candidate.

 

[Kersh]

Meaning if he's polling well. If no one is going to support him, no sense in wasting my time when I have bigger, oranger fish to fry.

Honesty, if I thought there was a lesser evil among the major party candidates, I'd likely vote for that person. But, I cannot, in good conscience vote for Trump or Clinton. I'd consider Johnson's polling numbers only in regard to which third-party I support. Really, the LP most closely matches my views, but I think that there is value in supporting the most viable third party.

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[Eryk]

Jill Stein.

 

[stamperben]

Meaning if he's polling well. If no one is going to support him, no sense in wasting my time when I have bigger, oranger fish to fry.

How's he ever gonna poll well unless you support him? That's the problem with ever trying to build any third party, everyone expects everyone else to do it! Sitting on a fence doesn't cut it.

 

[JustOneWay]

Yes....

A vote for Johnson, or any other candidate besides Trump will bring Clinton one vote closer to the Presidency.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yes....

A vote for Johnson, or any other candidate besides Trump will bring Clinton one vote closer to the Presidency.

Maybe do maybe not, but at least people would be voting on their values. Sometimes that is more important than anything.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I do...but it's not because of any particular dislike of current mainstream candidates. I've voted Libertarian for the last few election cycles.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

How's he ever gonna poll well unless you support him? That's the problem with ever trying to build any third party, everyone expects everyone else to do it! Sitting on a fence doesn't cut it.

It's hard to build 3rd parties up in our current voting system due to the spoiler effect.

A vote for a 3rd party always brings the mainstream candidate you dislike the most, closer to victory.

For example, I'll use the Green Party since you mentioned them earlier.

The people who, ideologically, are in line with the Green Party, have way more in common with democrats than they do with republicans. However, voting for the green party actually favors republicans because the green party is going to take more votes away from the democrats. This is known as the spoiler effect.

For 3rd parties to grow, either everyone has to get on board and all vote for them at the same time, or we need to move toward an alternative vote system which reduces the spoiler effect.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I do...but it's not because of any particular dislike of current mainstream candidates. I've voted Libertarian for the last few election cycles.

Usually, I would vote Republican unless I really felt strongly about a particular dem, but I am not sure I can bring myself to actually vote for Trump. If not, I am voting Libertarian because I do not "believe" in choosing not to vote and then complaining about the actions of whomever is in office.

 

[JustOneWay]

Maybe do maybe not, but at least people would be voting on their values. Sometimes that is more important than anything.

The post below kind of runs counter to the remark about voting values. My values tell me to not vote Trump regardless, and it appears that your values are a bit conflicted. However the comment below is intelligent and well thought out.

Yeah I cannot decide whether to vote for Trump or Libertain. On the one hand, I do not like Trump, but on the other hand he is much more likely to win than ANY third party.