Who are false Christians, false churches. false pastors?

[Stillicidia]

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[Stillicidia]

Divine healing, when you are sick, don't see doctor first, pray for divine healing.
You need money, pray God to give you money, work hard is not important,
God can give you US Dollars in your drawer.
Maybe in a morning, when you open the door, there is a bag at your doorstep,
you open the bag and it is full of gold bars.

Is this the teaching of Bible?

There is a thing which goes, don't use god as an atm machine.
Don't fail to get to know him. He hates the idea of ask, and ask, and ask, and failure to know him.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

Sorry, can't understand your English.

 

[Stillicidia]

Did you see the ad for the christian conference to be held around september 21 called THE GATHERING? They start it with the first half of the Lord's prayer and behind the word hallowed is a picture of a building which happens to be the biggest temple of shiva in the world!!! One of the preachers is John Bevere. I listened to one of his messages some years back. He was running to and fro on the pulpit. It was all a big show. Later I happened to see his interview. He revealed that he was staying at a posh apartment. I didn't feel right about him. So I never watched anymore of his sermons. Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.

John Bavere is excellent. He resolved my problem as I was researching him.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

Based on my understanding of the Gospel,
I have to right to reject what I think is wrong teaching.

 

[Goodbook]

Stay away from prosperity gospel preachers.
You cant serve both God and money. Prosperity gospel teaches love of money, which is the root of all evil.

JEsus didnt come to make us rich financially. He came to save us from our sins.

If you are currently in a church that teaches another gospel, not the true gospel of Jesus Christ I advise you to leave and find one that teaches the truth. Read the bible first before you enter any church gathering. We can ask Jesus to be our teacher..he teaches us through His Word in the Bible. Start reading it today.

 

[Dave-W]

a picture of a building which happens to be the biggest temple of shiva in the world!

Who died?

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Too many charismatic churches in my country Malaysia,
they ask for compulsory tithe.
They force you to speak in tongue, emphasize miracles.
They force you to do testimony of miracles, of divine healing.
Even though you did not experience it, but you have to cooperate to tell lie to people that
you experienced miracles.
They teach you to pray for money, it is God's will to make us rich in money.

Yes, these are some churches teach.
Many miracles are bull-sh****, no evidence, no true testimony.
They also claim that they are prophets, apostles of 21st century.

Are they heretic?

Hmmm ... well just go to a different church ... I have seen many miracles, have genuine testimony, and even some healing testimony. Some people we know in my wife's family have seen their dead daughter raised back to life. Miracles are not wrong. But if you are being asked to pretend then something is wrong. Move on.

 

[Goodbook]

I suppose you could just go to a a different church but its easy to say that...

If you on your own and dont know anyone how would you know what difffernt chruch to go to? It could be just the same as the other church plus no church is perfect...

Thing is..there are believers stuck in churches that have bad structure or you go to a good one and then one wolf comes along and spoils it all.
I think keep reading the Bible and stand firm in your faith. Sometimes its better to fellowship in small groups 2 or 3 even.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

My wife goes to a good church.
I go with her.

 

[Goodbook]

Well good. If you not asking for advice and just ranting or asking a question you already know the answer to then here isnt really the place to debate or argue.

If you happy in your church then theres no need to badmouth the ones you dont even belong to.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

When I disagree with what the pastor teaches, what can I do?

 

[Stillicidia]

To revise all my posts in all the forums more properly, and with more loving kindness, forgive me my error,

There is a clear difference between true Christians and not.
This is most easily expressed with the obeying of the commandments of Jesus, Matthew 5-7

 

[ToBeLoved]

Too many charismatic churches in my country Malaysia,
they ask for compulsory tithe.
They force you to speak in tongue, emphasize miracles.
They force you to do testimony of miracles, of divine healing.
Even though you did not experience it, but you have to cooperate to tell lie to people that
you experienced miracles.
They teach you to pray for money, it is God's will to make us rich in money.

Yes, these are some churches teach.
Many miracles are bull-sh****, no evidence, no true testimony.
They also claim that they are prophets, apostles of 21st century.

Are they heretic?

Tithing is NOT mandatory in the New Covenant. If a church insists on a tithe, STAY AWAY! A tithe or donation is between you and God, if God puts it upon your heart to donate monies to a church or group, then follow God. Do not go to a church that demands money.

If a church forces you to do anything, that is a BIG RED FLAG. We choose Jesus. Nothing in a church should be mandatory.

Praying for money is probably because they want you to tithe money. Sounds fishy to me. Unethical. You pray for the things you need. Jesus said to the rich young ruler that he needed to give up all that he had and to give it to the poor. Money is not important to God and should not be important to a church or us.

One of the 10 Commandments is not bearing false witness, which is do not lie. If they are asking you to lie, RUN AWAY FAST!!!!!

This church is bad news. Do not go to this church, they are telling you to do things that God does not like or want. They are asking you to lie and say something is true that is not. This is not following Jesus.

They are heretic.

 

[ToBeLoved]

When I disagree with what the pastor teaches, what can I do?

If the pasotr teaches a bunch of bad things, do not go to that church. You do not need wrong teaching. Read the Bible yourself. Try to find a good bible teacher on the Youtube or internet. you do not need to go to a church that teaches false things. This church will lead you to do bad things that God does not want.
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Or meet with two or three people who want to learn God's Word. You each study a chapter during the week and then talk about it together. Or find a Bible Study book that is good.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

Thank you ToBeLoved.
We should only trust God, not man.
We can let God control us (but God respects our wisdom), but we should not let any man or church to control us.

 

[Wings of Eagles]

Who are false Christians, false churches. false pastors?
What are the characteristics of them?
What does the Bible say about them?
Should we estrange ourselves from them?

False doctrine can take many subtle or overt forms:
Paul considered legalistic Christians "False" teachers...because they denied salvation by faith in Christ alone...and were bringing Christians into "bondage" by saying they were "justified by the works of the law" and by requiring them to be circumcised , etc. to be saved, Galatians 5.

John was very concerned with false teachers and teachings contrary to that of Jesus Christ and used this a a test of False teachers,...they must acknowledge Jesus is the Christ.

“ Who is a LIAR but he that DENIES JESUS IS THE CHRIST: HE IS an ANTI-CHRIST, that denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son, the same HAS NOT THE FATHER”” ( 1 John 2:22)

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
...and to be received he must abide in the teachings of Christ..."Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:" 2 John 1:8-10

 

[aiki]

Who are false Christians, false churches. false pastors?
What are the characteristics of them?
What does the Bible say about them?
Should we estrange ourselves from them?

Read the book of Jude.

Selah.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

when Jesus returns nobody is going to think it's an alien invasion.

When Y'SHUA returns HE won't be mistaken for anyone else, and no one will be mistaken for HIM any more, will they!?
HE IS KING OF KINGS, and LORD OF LORDS, ELOHIM ADONAI who came in the flesh - ETERNAL GOD.

“ Who is a LIAR but he that DENIES JESUS IS THE CHRIST: HE IS an ANTI-CHRIST, that denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son, the same HAS NOT THE FATHER”” ( 1 John 2:22)

AMEIN.

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
...and to be received he must abide in the teachings of Christ..."Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:" 2 John 1:8-10

Yes, it is so serious,
"receive him not" - don't even greet those who bring a false CHRIST.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

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