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Which day of the Week is the Bible Sabbath?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by BobRyan, Jul 6, 2012.

  1. BobRyan

    BobRyan Junior Member

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    The question came up here -

    DeVon Franklin Tells Oprah About The Sabbath - YouTube


    According to the Bible --

    What day did Christ rise from the dead? Luke 24:1, 13, 21 -- the first day of the week. Week day 1.

    What day of the week do Jews celebrate as the 7th day of the week?

    What day of the week do Christians celebrate as the day of Christ's resurrection?

    What day of the week was Christ keeping as the Sabbath in Luke 4:16?

    What is the best text in the Bible showing that the 7th day is the Sabbath? (Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:8-11)

    Could the Jews have picked any day they wish as "day 7"?? Exodus 16:23-27 God identified the day of the week for them - they had no choice in the matter.

    What is the best text in the Bible showing that the first day of the week is the Sabbath?

    What did D.L. Moody believe about the continuation of the Sabbath Commandment?


    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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  2. BobRyan

    BobRyan Junior Member

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    Which is better -- man-made tradition of your favorite magisterium - or the Word of God?

    What was Christ's view of the comparison?

    Serious enough for the saints to take notice.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Albion Facilitator

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    Which raises an even bigger question--

    How many nearly-identical threads does it take for Seventh-Day Adventists to tell everyone here that their church thinks everyone should worship on Saturday rather than Sunday?

    ;)
     
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    The day does not matter. The resurrection does though.
    Again it does not matter even if they are Christian Jews.
    Again it does no matter.
    Ditto above comments.
    Who cares the Christian is not obligated to that covenant.
    What is the purpose of discussing something that does not apply to Christians?
    Who cares??
    Do not rightly know. OTH it has been shown that he observed Sunday via quote.

    bugkiller
     
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    So are you even remotely suggesting that God will not accept worship on Sunday or some such silliness?

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  6. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis De profundis clamavi et exaudisti me.

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    What day is the Sabbath in the Bible? Saturday.

    However, what day have Christians, including the Apostles themselves, regularly met upon in order to worship Christ? Sunday.

    Moot question is moot.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
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    Lion King Veni, vidi, vici

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    Did they only meet on Sunday to worship Christ?:confused:
     
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    They would have continued to meet at the Synagogue and at the Temple...
    ...Continuing to show from the Scriptures that Jesus was indeed the Christ.
    ...However the Christians would not have celebrated the Lord's Supper at either place.

    Scripture says Christians were called to assemble THEMSELVES together...
    ...This specific "Christian assembly" was held on the 1st day of the week.
     
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    ViaCrucis De profundis clamavi et exaudisti me.

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    Unlikely.

    But it was a specific day called aside for that unique purpose right from the beginning, and has remained so since then.

    There is no law saying we have to meet on Sunday, we could gather every day, gather twice a week on Wednesdays and Thursdays; whatever. It's just that we have always gathered together on the first day of the week. Not according to Divine Mandate, but rather according to apostolic custom.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  10. BobRyan

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    As you may have noticed from the opening video - not everyone is aware of that.

    No question about that going on for centuries - but not in the first century.

    In the first century you find Sabbath after Sabbath gospel sermons to both Jews and Gentiles in Acts 13, and Acts 17 and even the Jerusalem church admits to this fact in Acts 15. Turns out -- the Jerusalem Church leaders were all Christians

    Things were very different in the first century.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    God said -- Exodus 20:8-11

    Ex 20
    [FONT=&quot]8 ""[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Remember the Sabbath day[/FONT][FONT=&quot],[/FONT][FONT=&quot] to keep it holy.
    9 "" [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Six[/FONT][FONT=&quot]days[/FONT][FONT=&quot] you shall labor and do all your work,
    10 but [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]the seventh day is the Sabbath[/FONT][FONT=&quot] of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.
    11 "" [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]For in six days[/FONT][FONT=&quot] the LORD [/FONT][FONT=&quot]made [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the[/FONT][FONT=&quot]heavens and the earth, the sea and all[/FONT][FONT=&quot]that is in them, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and rested[/FONT][FONT=&quot] on [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the seventh day[/FONT][FONT=&quot]; [/FONT][FONT=&quot]therefore the LORD blessed[/FONT][FONT=&quot] the Sabbath day [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and[/FONT][FONT=&quot] made it holy[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT]


    But man's tradition said --




    Choose you this day whom you will serve


    Christ Helps you with that choice in Mark 7:7-12

    in Christ,


    Bob
     
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    Wrong covenant.

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    The Scripture indicates worshipping on Sunday prior to 60 AD.

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    Yes, in the first century without question.

    True--to the extent that the early Christians, for awhile, attended synagogue on one day AND THEN their own services on the Lord's Day.
     
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    There is no record at all in the NT of the NT saints attending Synagogue services where they are preaching the Gospel and then inviting all the Jews and Gentiles in the Synagogue to a "week day 1" meeting as a followup.

    But there IS the example of the opposite in both Acts 13 and Acts 17 where after Preaching the Gospel to both Jews and gentiles on the Sabbath they invite everyone back "NEXT SABBATH" for more Gospel preaching - and "NEXT DAY" for more Gospel preaching.

    For the story about them preaching the Gospel on Sabbath and then having everyone attend a "come back tomorrow for more" service - you have to make it up - because it is not there in the NT.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    God said -- Exodus 20:8-11

    Ex 20
    [FONT=&quot]8 ""[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Remember the Sabbath day[/FONT][FONT=&quot],[/FONT][FONT=&quot] to keep it holy.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]9 "" [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Six[/FONT][FONT=&quot]days[/FONT][FONT=&quot] you shall labor and do all your work,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]10 but [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the seventh day is the Sabbath[/FONT][FONT=&quot] of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]11 "" [/FONT][FONT=&quot]For in six days[/FONT][FONT=&quot] the LORD [/FONT][FONT=&quot]made [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the[/FONT][FONT=&quot]heavens and the earth, the sea and all[/FONT][FONT=&quot]that is in them, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and rested[/FONT][FONT=&quot] on [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the seventh day[/FONT][FONT=&quot]; [/FONT][FONT=&quot]therefore the LORD blessed[/FONT][FONT=&quot] the Sabbath day [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and[/FONT][FONT=&quot] made it holy[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT]


    But man's tradition said -- "The day does not really matter no matter what the Bible says to the contrary" -



    Choose you this day whom you will serve

    Christ Helps you with that choice in Mark 7:7-12

    I am thinking that the Jer 31:31-33 Covenant (The NEW Covenant) is the "right one" - coming to us from the OT and telling us that the Law of God is "Written on the heart" under that covenant.

    No wonder then that Paul says "What Matters is KEEPING the commandments of God" 1Cor 7:19.

    No wonder John says of the NT saints "They KEEP the Commandments of God and their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12.

    No wonder Paul says "Do we then make void the Law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31



    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    You shouldn't be able to find such a thing in the NT...
    ...The "command" was for the Christians THEMSELVES to assemble.
    ...And that precludes Jews who still thought Judaism was the only way.

    Hebrews 10,25
    Not forsaking the assembling OF OURSELVES together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching

    1) a gathering together in one place

    The Hebrew shows the same meaning for ourselves

    1) union, unitedness

    So, when Paul said "ourselves" he was saying that Christians should have a CHRISTIAN assembly...
    ...Not simply going in force to a Synagogue and sharing the Gospel with Jews.
    ....But an actual assembly where everyone there is UNITED in belief.



    What day did St. Paul "COMMAND" the Christians to have their offering reading for the collection of saints?
     
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    :amen: Exactly correct. Please read the highlighted.
    Yes it says Gentiles (not Christians) did this inviting back in 13. But you say two different things. You say saints (which the Scripture does not) and it was not the Jews who did the inviting. There is no such reference in 17.
    You make it up that the Gentiles were already Christitians without ever hearing about Jesus Christ or at least the Gospel. That would mean the Jews had never heard the Gospel as well at those locations. So how could it be a meeting of Christians that invited Paul back? Interestting.

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    Bob you need to read Jer 31:31-33. Here for your convience -

    31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
    32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
    33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    I highlighted some very important words here. New does not mean renew. Not according to means unlike. There is no way around these facts.

    Hebrews 8:6 states the new covenant is based on something else besides the law with the phrase "better promises." This also would not be the same law of the OC issued at Sinai.

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    You should also note the green highlighted. This is a temporary requirement only.

    bugkiller
     
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