Yes I can. And this is how we do it.
Guess what? I know the false teachings of Mormonism.
When John says that if you believe in Jesus you will be saved, he is saying the truth. He knows this is just the starting point,
Unless you are omniscient, you don't know what John knew.
but if you do not get past the starting point, the rest of the process becomes mute.
For instance John and Mormons believe that in order to be saved you need to believe and then you need the baptism of water and of the spirit.
John 3
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born
again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Man's first birth(the fleshy one) was from the womb. So if he needs to be born again it is of the Spirit. A third birth isn't mentioned.
Ephesians 2
3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.
We know John knows this, but in John 3:36 he is just talking about the most important starting point.
So it's okay to follow false teachers and you must be baptized into the Mormon church and you need to get married in a Mormon temple?
What Mark says is absolutely the truth also. He says that you must believe and you must be baptised to be saved. This is absolutely the truth. He too, is not telling you all that you must do to be saved, but he does go 1 step further than John.
And then Mormons added a lot of laws and ordinances that are not Christ's commandments.
Mark 16:16
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
How many times is baptism mentioned in the Bible?
Luke 7
50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace (εἰρήνη [eirēnē]) .
Romans 5
1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
So that is how you reconile these 2 conflicting scriptures.
He did not change it because it is the truth. But again, you must understand JS understands the entire process of being saved in the K of G. This scripture in Ephesians is just 1 part of being saved.
I take it that "JS" refers to Joseph Smith. He was a false prophet.
Salvation doesn't come is parts. Sanctification begins at salvation and is ongoing until death.
You can't see what Ephesians 2:1-10 is saying.
Ephesians 2:1-10 (KJV)
1 And you hath he
quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath
quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
The only difference in these 2 scriptures is the verbiage that 'after all that you can do'. You mainline Christian think that is the most blasphemous concept in all of Christendom.
Why do you think you can read our thoughts? You aren't God. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is worse than any other.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
To me, it has always made sense from reading the scriptures that we commit to do all that we can do to help build the K of God, and then because our good works is not enough to save us, Jesus gives us the free gift of grace and we make our way into the K of G.
What you call the Kingdom of God is the Mormon church.
This is what I believe:
John 5:24 (KJV)
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation;
but is passed from death unto life.
Ephesians 2
1 And you
hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
1 John 5
11 And this is the record, that
God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
God quickened me when I was dead in sins.
1 John 3
14
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
If you want to believe that you only have to believe to be saved, (John 3:16) and you don't even have to have the baptism of the HS, that's up to you, but I think you will be surprized.
Why are you rudely stating that when I've explained over and over again that Christians are being
sanctified?
1 John 4
10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins...
19 We love him, because he first loved us.
John 14
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
How many times do Christians have to tell you that we LOVE God?
