I hear a lot of random statements made about God, that he is omnipotent, omniscient, timeless and so on. But before he supposedly made everything, what meaning did his existence actually have? This is kind of a spin off question regarding the chicken and the egg situation of the big bang and pre-universe. But it doesnt seem reasonable to not apply this same scrutiny to God.
The first problem is, with nothing in existence he has no power over anything at all, there is nothing to know or anywhere to be. But then at some point he realised he could create atoms and molecules in this odd existence he must have had, which formed stars and over billions of years we had a universe with planets, moons, black holes and particles so small and fast we have only just detected them. He then decided after a dozen billion years or so to create life in his image (how can he look like a human in a non-existent place??) so out of the trillions of rocks decided to create life on one of them. He set about a system where this life could replicate itself and altered the way they evolved over another billion years by laboriously altering the environment to produce hundreds of millions of species. He changed the environment enough, or gave some creatures such an advantage that 99.99% of all of these new species were extinct before the first signs on humanity evolved, which was his sole purpose in the first place. So that seems to be the modern version of the creation story. He now has a universe where is all powerful, which for some reason he wanted. So, if he is timeless does he also still exist in this pre-universe place too? If he is timeless why did he need to create anything at all, if he is in all times and all places at once then he cannot possibly be bored or be surprised by anything can he? So what purpose does it serve for him to actually do anything? He doesnt seem to have free will of his own in other words, because he has already done anything he could think about doing at some point in time, meaning he doesnt think he has done everything he could ever do.
Does this make sense to anyone? If he is timeless then he cannot achieve anything new, it is a set destiny he has to follow. Or if you argue that he is timeless but still alters things at will at that time, then he is not timeless. Or if you insist that he does both cos he is god then what possible joy could he get from creation since he knows what will eventually happen in the billions of years, which requires no waiting for a timeless being. The first three rules out of the ten commandments he gave revolve around him being selfish and wanting attention, but since he has already experienced all of the worship he will ever get, before the creation of time and the universe then why is it important? One argument could be that God and the universe began at the same time, but then he is not timeless either.
If this makes any sense, can anyone explain how God can be timeless and what he did with himself before the universe, or why a universe needed to exist for him to enjoy it?
God without the universe is more than the universe without God. Without God, what is the point of the universe?
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