We had three choices

[MorkandMindy]

For the people

We had the offer of Bernie Sanders to run the country for the people, all of the people. He was rejected, crucially by the DNC, but also by the Democratic voters of California.

Increasing the positives
He was in favor of fixing the roads and other infrastructure, and fixing the school system - something a Jewish person would be ideally suited to do.

reducing the negatives
And on our huge losses, breaking up the too-big-to-fail big banks which are costing the country more than the trade deficit and the military adventures combined.


All pretty obvious stuff I thought

 

[[serious]]

I thought this would be about Giant Meteor.

How has no one made a "Don't blame me, I voted for Giant Meteor" bumper sticker yet?

 

[Freodin]

I thought this would be about Giant Meteor.

How has no one made a "Don't blame me, I voted for Giant Meteor" bumper sticker yet?

It would be indeed funny, considering US politics.

And it would also be another great example of the US selfishness.

 

[essentialsaltes]

but also by the Democratic voters of California.

No need to unduly blame California. Our primary comes late and is seldom of any consequence. On June 6, Clinton was 30 delegates shy of what she needed to lock up the nomination. New Jersey and California were the next contests with 694 delegates. With proportional awards, there was no way California could have made Bernie win.

 

[redleghunter]

No need to unduly blame California. Our primary comes late and is seldom of any consequence. On June 6, Clinton was 30 delegates shy of what she needed to lock up the nomination. New Jersey and California were the next contests with 694 delegates. With proportional awards, there was no way California could have made Bernie win.

The primaries are rigged....we all know that......

 

[pgp_protector]

You still have more than 2 choices.
Looking at my ballot, I've got 5 choices.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

I thought this would be about Giant Meteor.

How has no one made a "Don't blame me, I voted for Giant Meteor" bumper sticker yet?

I'm waiting for Giant Meteor to steal votes from all the candidates with a 5% of the vote from write ins.

 

[pgp_protector]

I thought this would be about Giant Meteor.

How has no one made a "Don't blame me, I voted for Giant Meteor" bumper sticker yet?

You would have to wait tell After the election for those
But until then
http://www.redbubble.com/people/soccerjoe/works/22011057-giant-meteor-2016

 

[smithed64]

Do you really want the Government telling you how to live, work, eat, raise your children and most especially who can and who cant Worship?
Yeah, I know it tries already to do a lot of this now. But Socialism would seal the deal with all this. Look, government can't even make people safe for voting right now and you want to trust your liberty with something that has proven to fail in few countries already.
Socialism is not even Biblical. It's anti religion and anti freedom. I'd rather keep what little bit of freedom I do have, than to turn it over all to big government.

 

[MorkandMindy]

For his ego

The next choice was a rich guy who has been rich all his life and doesn't any other way, but has decided since the rich run the country, well he can do it.

Says some pretty random stuff, but doesn't seem to have ill will towards the masses.

If the US is a raft heading toward the edge of Niagara Falls, Bernie is for turning around and heading back, Donald is looking for a compass and a map.

 

[MorkandMindy]

For killing

As she explained at Goldman Sachs Hillary was among the ordinary Americans at one time and knows how to talk to us, what not to say. But she is now among the elite and her interests are there. She has one stand in public and another in private. She is actually in favor of open borders and trade agreements despite playing along with Bernie.

Her own motivation is apparent in the way she votes, argues and takes action in her public office. If there is an opportunity for war she takes it.

 

[MorkandMindy]

3 candidates

one wanted to save the country and the world
one was a rich guy
and one loved wars

the first was rejected and we're arguing over the other two, do we want a rich guy or lots of killing?

How well has Christianity in America, given lots of religious freedom, actually turned out?

 

[MorkandMindy]

I over simplified it by only considering motivations.

Hillary will also offer women's health, more rights for her target groups women and minorities, to get the Presidency.

Have to bribe a little to get in. Those bribes won't come to much anyway.

 

[LoAmmi]

Do you really want the Government telling you how to live, work, eat, raise your children and most especially who can and who cant Worship?
Yeah, I know it tries already to do a lot of this now. But Socialism would seal the deal with all this. Look, government can't even make people safe for voting right now and you want to trust your liberty with something that has proven to fail in few countries already.
Socialism is not even Biblical. It's anti religion and anti freedom. I'd rather keep what little bit of freedom I do have, than to turn it over all to big government.

Could you show me where Bernie Sanders wanted to tell you how to live, work, eat, raise children, and who you can and can't worship? I must have missed that in his speeches.

 

[smithed64]

Could you show me where Bernie Sanders wanted to tell you how to live, work, eat, raise children, and who you can and can't worship? I must have missed that in his speeches.

I'm sure you've heard about Greece...socialism didn't work. Oh how about Venezuela
it's not working there either. In Great Britian....It's pretty much despised. In Canada, they want the change...just to nice to do anything about it.

I didn't mention Bernie sanders, just about His policy of socialism.

It doesn't work....why do you think we in America can take a failed system like socialism and do any better with it?
It's proven to fail. Makes no sense.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Great Britain is more right wing than the US when it comes to running the free market system, I've just come from there.

Britain has sold it's power stations, power lines, water pipes, treatment plants and reservoirs, the rail network has been privatised and most of the post office.

On high tech profitable industries Britain follows free market rules and will allow them to be sold to anyone. I'm not aware of any other country that stupid. Even the US restricts sales by claiming many companies are essential to national security.

The only thing arguably to the 'left' of the US is the government run medical system, which is just so much better that it would be stupid to change it. The US system isn't a free market either, that's why it costs so much, so it's equal on that, I'd say overall Britain is to the right of the US.

 

[Skavau]

I'm sure you've heard about Greece...socialism didn't work. Oh how about Venezuela

I'm not aware how any Greek government since the Junta has tried to control the private lives of its citizens.

Venezuela is a banana republic, but for other reasons.

it's not working there either. In Great Britian....It's pretty much despised. In Canada, they want the change...just to nice to do anything about it.

As an actual Brit, no.

Run on a platform of dismantling the NHS, gutting public services and slashing important benefits and pensions and you'll get less than 5% of the vote.

 

[smithed64]

I'm not aware how any Greek government since the Junta has tried to control the private lives of its citizens.

Venezuela is a banana republic, but for other reasons.


As an actual Brit, no.

Run on a platform of dismantling the NHS, gutting public services and slashing important benefits and pensions and you'll get less than 5% of the vote.

Greece is broke...because of socialism.
Venezuela is broke because of socialism and cronyism.

It doesn't work. It wouldn't work here, but then again it might. Because we have so many people getting entitlements today.

Don't get me wrong. I do agree that there has to be some social changes. But that isn't what fixes the problems we have here. You can't get the right social changes, until you have the individuals change themselves. Sin is the problem.

I blame the churches for not doing their job. They started social work. They started the schools, they started the hospitals. But they let it go by the wayside, they ignored the God given laws and took to the money instead of doing what God intended for us to do.

Christ wasn't a socialist. He was for individual freedoms. If not He would have made everyone accept Him. He didn't, He told them the truth and then he let them figure it out, from the truth. Those that didn't get it, crucified Him, Those that did, followed Him.

He even taught about investing, read the story of the ten talents.
But for every thing He did. It all came down to one thing, save the lost.
By changing the hearts and minds of the individuals to repent and place their trust in Him. He had his followers. Not because he laid down a law and said, do it or else.

Even today, we should never witness the "Do it or else" approach. Show them they have sin in their lives. Give them the truth of the Gospel. The Holy Spirit convicts and then they have a choice. Either surrender and repent. Or don't, and if they don't let them know the consequences of that.

When you take from one to give to another, it promotes dishonesty, anger and resentment.

When you teach, to give from the heart in love, it promotes Love, charity, forgiveness, patience, longsuffering and wisdom...some of those are the fruits of the Spirit. Go figure.

When you take from one to give to another, so the other can continue taking, never contributing to the society he/she lives in. It also promotes dishonesty, anger and resentment. Plus laziness, false contentment and no will to invent or start something, in those who receive this so called free help.

Nope, socialism will not work here..too many individual thinking people here. If it were to start...it would creep up on us...as it's trying to do now.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Bernie Sanders specifically mentioned that his model of socialism was similar to that followed by Denmark.

Promptly the US propaganda machine kicked in and out came something that looked like a documentary on Denmark stating how depressing it is there because of the high taxes.

Someone mentioned that to me and I responded that I had lived in Denmark and it was not like that. He also mentioned he had lived in Denmark and didn't find it was like the TV program either.


Basically, rich people own the media so it is heavily biased to the rich. Most people don't believe it anymore.

The Niagara Bible Conference where American Christian Fundamentalism started was funded by an oil company multi millionaire and achieved just what he wanted, so beware.

 

[Skavau]

Greece is broke...because of socialism.
Venezuela is broke because of socialism and cronyism.

It doesn't work. It wouldn't work here, but then again it might. Because we have so many people getting entitlements today.

Don't get me wrong. I do agree that there has to be some social changes. But that isn't what fixes the problems we have here. You can't get the right social changes, until you have the individuals change themselves. Sin is the problem.

I blame the churches for not doing their job. They started social work. They started the schools, they started the hospitals. But they let it go by the wayside, they ignored the God given laws and took to the money instead of doing what God intended for us to do.

Christ wasn't a socialist. He was for individual freedoms. If not He would have made everyone accept Him. He didn't, He told them the truth and then he let them figure it out, from the truth. Those that didn't get it, crucified Him, Those that did, followed Him.

He even taught about investing, read the story of the ten talents.
But for every thing He did. It all came down to one thing, save the lost.
By changing the hearts and minds of the individuals to repent and place their trust in Him. He had his followers. Not because he laid down a law and said, do it or else.

Even today, we should never witness the "Do it or else" approach. Show them they have sin in their lives. Give them the truth of the Gospel. The Holy Spirit convicts and then they have a choice. Either surrender and repent. Or don't, and if they don't let them know the consequences of that.

When you take from one to give to another, it promotes dishonesty, anger and resentment.

When you teach, to give from the heart in love, it promotes Love, charity, forgiveness, patience, longsuffering and wisdom...some of those are the fruits of the Spirit. Go figure.

When you take from one to give to another, so the other can continue taking, never contributing to the society he/she lives in. It also promotes dishonesty, anger and resentment. Plus laziness, false contentment and no will to invent or start something, in those who receive this so called free help.

Nope, socialism will not work here..too many individual thinking people here. If it were to start...it would creep up on us...as it's trying to do now.

Can you explain to me why some of the best countries in the world to live in are Northern European democratic socialist countries?