We are losing our minds because the left is holding them hostage.

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They must be very weak minds if they are lost because other people have different opinions. SMH.

Agreed. I am sure they were also upset for being called out on their bad behavior and their mistreatment of the people they dislike.
 
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One of the first examples cited in the article is that of Brandon Eich losing his job because he had a personal opinion at odds with people in his company and customer base.

Another is the boycott of Chick-Fil-A, which happened because the owner said the following in an an interview with a Christian magazine:

"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.

(Note, by the way, that the statement is most obviously a condemnation of divorce and remarriage, not of same-sex marriage which is condemned only implicitly. But even that was too much for supporters of same-sex marriage.)

So yes, there would seem to be a group of people that have tremendous stress over the opinions of others differing from their own. Of course, since this group is well known to lie, double down and project, they will often accuse others of suffering from the same social anxieties.
 
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That didn't answer the question. What is the biblical belief about climate change?

Hasn't the Vatican actually released something about that? Hasn't the Pope actually said something about that?

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/...ds-with-nations-to-act-now-on-climate-change/

If you disagree with the Pope, is your disagreement biblical or political? What are your religious arguments against Pope Francis?

I find it interesting that you classify disagreement with the Pope on a scientific position to necessarily be religious disagreement or political disagreement.

Wouldn't disagreement on a matter of science normally be a scientific disagreement?
 
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I find it interesting that you classify disagreement with the Pope on a scientific position to necessarily be religious disagreement or political disagreement.

Wouldn't disagreement on a matter of science normally be a scientific disagreement?
Normally, yes. But while the scientists have reached consensus on this issue, politicians, religious leaders and pundits are weighing in with their disagreements with the science in a way similar to when the consensus was reached on tobacco being dangerous
 
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Normally, yes. But while the scientists have reached consensus on this issue, politicians, religious leaders and pundits are weighing in with their disagreements with the science in a way similar to when the consensus was reached on tobacco being dangerous

"Consensus" is the measure for political truths, not scientific ones.

If a consensus has been reached certainly that is evidence for the results being good science. However, if someone should disagree with the consensus, the disagreement will be from a scientific point of view. The history of science is filled to the brim with examples of theories which were nearly universally agreed upon, only to be later disproven or modified.

But I find the first part of your statement confusing. You seem to be saying that disagreement is political or religious because it is being done by politicians and religious leaders (incidentally, no religious leader or politician who disagrees with the common claims about the climate has yet come up in this thread). But we are discussing about what sort of disagreement someone could have with the Pope on this issue, without any knowledge of who the objector might be. If the objections of religious leaders are religious because the objectors are religious, would a scientist who disagrees with the Pope on science be making a scientific disagreement?
 
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Science shouldn't be political

Yet it is, and it doesn't help when you have a fragment wanting criminal charges.

Normally, yes. But while the scientists have reached consensus on this issue, politicians, religious leaders and pundits are weighing in with their disagreements with the science in a way similar to when the consensus was reached on tobacco being dangerous

It runs a wide array as you also have to include those who believe global warming to be also natural occurring and would have occurred one way or another.
 
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That didn't answer the question. What is the biblical belief about climate change?

Hasn't the Vatican actually released something about that? Hasn't the Pope actually said something about that?

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/...ds-with-nations-to-act-now-on-climate-change/

If you disagree with the Pope, is your disagreement biblical or political? What are your religious arguments against Pope Francis?
The Church cannot create doctrines on science.
They are only in the business for morals.

The Popes may give any opinion they prefer - but it is outside tradition to believe they have infallible understandings of worldly subjects.
 
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I find it interesting that you classify disagreement with the Pope on a scientific position to necessarily be religious disagreement or political disagreement.

Wouldn't disagreement on a matter of science normally be a scientific disagreement?

So the question is: What did the climate change issue have to do with that article on that blog in any way? It had nothing to do with the religious context of the article.
 
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So the question is: What did the climate change issue have to do with that article on that blog in any way? It had nothing to do with the religious context of the article.

The article brought up the issue because of attempts that have been made to bring legal charges against those who disagree with claims of many climatologists. That is a political matter certainly, but not on the part of those who disagree with the mainstream scientific claim. Rather those who seek to punish them for their scientific opinions are making the issue political.
 
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