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Was There a Pre-Adamic Race?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by HisSparkPlug, Oct 9, 2013.

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  1. HisSparkPlug

    HisSparkPlug Offspring of a Genius

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    Over the years I've heard now & then about the possibility that a human like race lived prior to Adam, or even in conjunction with Adam and this explains the huge difference in races amongst other things.

    I'd like to hear the thoughts of others if you would...
    Was there a race of beings on earth prior to Adam and humans?
    What do you believe and why? - Please provide scripture if you can..
     
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    Lion King Veni, vidi, vici

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    According to the teachings of Jesus Christ and those of the prophets and apostles, Adam and Eve were the first humans to be created by God.

    They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce, and to dismiss her.”

    5 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Because of the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6 But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” Mark 10:4-9


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    So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man. 1 Corinthians 15:45-49

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    Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. Romans 5:12-14
     
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    :amen:

    That pretty much covers it...
     
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    "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body." - Romans 8:18-23

    I just thought that I'd add that the whole of creation "fell" or was "made subject to vanity by reason of him that subjected the same" and that, contextually, the "him" is Adam.
     
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    Yes! And it does explain many things. Those that will not accept this truth say:
    1. "Scripture tells us Adam was the first man." [1Cor.15:45].

    And, so he was but he was the first man...IN THE LINE TO CHRIST. Not the first man on the earth. The Bible is His-story...all about Jesus, His family and how they affected the world.

    2. "All races came from one man."

    That is impossible and yet accepted by those that will not see. Those that cannot or will not see the truth of mankind being on earth before Adam deny it by being PC. They say that it is a racist theory.

    3. "Eve is the mother of all living." [Gen.3:20]

    And so she is for through her came our Saviour. We only live through belief in Him. If we are spiritually alive then He dwells in us and Eve is our mother.


    Mankind, all races, were created on the sixth day. Adam was formed after the seventh day. A day to the Lord is as a thousand years.

    You have opened a very interesting topic...and a very deep subject. It is, I believe, something all children of God should understand but one so few are willing to search. As you do don't allow detractors to throw "racist" in your face for it isn't true...it is their security blanket, a blanket that covers their eyes allowing them to remain in a perpetual state of blindness.
     
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    Adam + Eve = All Skin Tones? - Answers in Genesis

    Don't forget to watch the short video...
     
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    People forget every race is descended from Noah and his sons...
     
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    That would be as impossible as all races coming from Adam.

    Who was taken aboard the ark to be kept alive? Some see animals...God shows us male and female of all flesh with the breath of life. What do you see?
     
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    Here's my theory: Adam and Eve were bi-racial, and these racial characterstics were preserved in noah and his sons...


    or, more likely, God made different races at another time...how? He's God, he can raise from the dead, he command every baby leaving the womb starting tomorrow to be any race He wants.
     
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    Adam was one man and Eve was of Adam...she too was one and that one was Adam. There was no bi-racial.

    Rather than jumping through hoops to avoid what is Scripture...search the Scriptures for He tells us.

    Mankind was created on the sixth day...all races. Adam, the beginning of the line to Jesus Christ, was FORMED after the seventh day.
     
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    There is no question that there has been a race of giant humans in the past. Archeological records are abundantly clear on this matter. Whether they were pre-Adamic or not is another question. Carbon dating would say yes.

    I don't think the text precludes a long history of earth prior to Adam. It's probably not credible to view the history of earth as only 6000 literal years. It's just not a credible view.

    The creationist greenhouse theory doesn't cut it.

    s
     
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    Lion King Veni, vidi, vici

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    Jesus Christ never fed 5000 people with only 5 loaves of bread and two fish...that's impossible!
    Jesus Christ never rose from the dead...that's impossible!
    Jesus Christ never walked on water...that's impossible!
    Jesus Christ never raised Lazarus from the dead...that's impossible!
    Jesus Christ never turned water into wine...that's impossible!
    Jesus Christ never ascended to heaven...that's impossible!
    Moses never parted the sea...that's impossible!
    Samson never killed a thousand Philistines with a jaw bone...that's impossible!
    Daniel never walked into fire without getting harmed...that's impossible!
    All races never came from one man...that's impossible!
    etc

    Just some of the examples folks use to discredit the Scriptures. Nothing new here.

    Ah Lord GOD! behold, you have made the heaven and the earth by your great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for you: Jeremiah 32:17

    No.

    Eve is the mother of all humans,- blacks, white, asians etc. However, she is nobody's "spiritual" mother. Eve never gave spiritual birth to me- all Christians are born from above:

    But the Jerusalem that is above is free, which is our mother. Galatians 4:26
     
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    The giants, as taught in Scripture, are from the mixing of fallen angels with women. So, they would be in this earth age. And I agree...records are abundantly clear they were here.


    I very much agree. It isn't at all credible and there are Scriptures telling us of the previous age. The age in which Satan rebelled...the age God destroyed...the age of the dinosaurs. And then God began anew when "The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." [Gen.1:2] The dawning of this age.
     
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    ...or it could be here that the LORD decided to create people of different color and language:

    Now the whole earth had one language and one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. 3 Then they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar. 4 And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens; let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”

    5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. 6 And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. 7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. 9 Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth. Genesis 11:1-9
     
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    Well, now you are getting into what may be commonly known as 'serpent seed' theology, which same I generally reject. (nothing personal)

    The 'intermingling' of demonic angels with mankind does not have to be DNA related.

    Satan's temptation of all of us transpires in our minds and hearts for example is an INTERMINGLING of a FALLEN ANGEL with US. There is no requirement to view that matter as solely DNA related intermixing. In fact there is exactly zero evidence of this type of mixture currently.

    We all have solely human DNA and not DNA from some fallen angelic race.

    Yeah, I'm kind of in that camp. That the history of the earth is quite longer than the pickup point of Adam in the text. The so called 'in the beginning' could have been very very very long prior to Adam.

    Yeah, there ya go...The blind insistence that the earth and creation is only a literal 6000 years just doesn't cut it.

    s
     
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    I NEVER discredit Scripture...NEVER! I am however given understanding of Scripture. I see past the letter of the Word...will you join me?


    As God tells us of the creation of mankind and the formation of Adam then...it is written, have ye not read?



    Indeed. He also formed Adam and from him came the line to Christ.


    I'm sorry...but that is so silly. Eve is the mother of all living. Did she give birth to you or to me? NO. She is NOT MY FLESH MOTHER. But, as I am spiritually living, she is my mother for He dwells in me.

    It is time to put away childish things.
     
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    The race produced by the fallen angels was supposedly...wiped out so I agree, we do not have their DNA.

    The evidence we have is Scriptural and the skeletal remains of giants.


    Agreed. :)
     
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    ..and from the line of Adam came also all the evil folks that have walked this earth.

    Yes, in a way, Eve did give birth to both you and me. She is our mother according to the flesh (in the same way David was Christ's father).

    How can something this simple to understand be so hard grasp for some?:confused:
     
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    I don't think the race of giants was demonic. For dairy cattle (I was a dairy farmer at one time) it's called 'line breeding.' If you take a certain trait in a cow and double breed aka INbreeding, the trait can double. So in people, breeding a tall father to his own daughter can produce a very large human very fast. They may be mentally deficient as well, but very tall. And early in human history I think this was practiced. A lot of 'tribes' probably produced tall people to ward off attacks by others.
     
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