War - gog on horizon?

[HisdaughterJen]

Bret Stephens: Obama Is Pushing Israel Toward War - WSJ.com

"Obama Is Pushing Israel Toward War"

 

[heavensblade23]

I can't make heads or tails of that article.

Israel may or may not bomb Iran's nuclear facilities in the next 9 months (which we're been hearing for years), and Obama is somehow involved.

At least in theory Israel is its own country and not a US client-state, so whether or not they bomb Iran is up to them and not Obama.

If they even proceed with that plan, it's likely there will be little in the way of direct retaliation. No one came running to help Iraq or Syria when their nascent nuclear capabilities were bombed by Israel.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

I can't make heads or tails of that article.

Israel may or may not bomb Iran's nuclear facilities in the next 9 months (which we're been hearing for years), and Obama is somehow involved.

At least in theory Israel is its own country and not a US client-state, so whether or not they bomb Iran is up to them and not Obama.

If they even proceed with that plan, it's likely there will be little in the way of direct retaliation. No one came running to help Iraq or Syria when their nascent nuclear capabilities were bombed by Israel.

Instead of being tough and standing strong on Iran, Obama is placating them. He's being a shivering little lap dog to Iran. Iran said they're not going to stop their nuclear program and Obama blinked, then agreed to their terms.

Now, Israel has to go it alone, knowing that Obama is a wimp.

He will go down in history as the worst president...ever.

 

[heavensblade23]

Now, Israel has to go it alone, knowing that Obama is a wimp.

Seeing as how it's Israel's problem, they should go it alone. If they expect to be backed up by the might of the US government then they need to be paying taxes.

He will go down in history as the worst president...ever.

GWB has that territory staked out for the time being.

 

[Tractor1]

Instead of being tough and standing strong on Iran, Obama is placating them. He's being a shivering little lap dog to Iran. Iran said they're not going to stop their nuclear program and Obama blinked, then agreed to their terms.

Now, Israel has to go it alone, knowing that Obama is a wimp.

He will go down in history as the worst president...ever.

I'm no fan of the Obama administration, but there's little that can be done. What is your recommended course of action to remedy the situation?

In Christ,
Tracey

 

[heavensblade23]

I'm not sure 'being tough' is going to accomplish anything either. No traction was made by the Bush administration on this topic with their decidedly different approach.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

I'm no fan of the Obama administration, but there's little that can be done. What is your recommended course of action to remedy the situation?

In Christ,
Tracey

I think it's lining up exactly the way God warned about. So, there is no remedy. All we can do is watch it unfold. Russia and Islamic countries are emboldened.

 

[Tractor1]

I think it's lining up exactly the way God warned about. So, there is no remedy. All we can do is watch it unfold. Russia and Islamic countries are emboldened.

If there's no remedy, what's the purpose of the thread? Why place the blame at the feet of the Obama administration? What did those in power previously do to alter the current path of Iran?

In Christ,
Tracey

 

[HisdaughterJen]

If there's no remedy, what's the purpose of the thread? Why place the blame at the feet of the Obama administration? What did those in power previously do to alter the current path of Iran?

In Christ,
Tracey

Obama is turning out to be the impetus and people are recognizing that fact.

Apparently, the Bush admin was prepared to take out Iran's facilities but now Israel is alone.

The purpose of the thread is, is this leading to gog war, hence the title, "War - gog on horizon?"

 

[Tractor1]

Obama is turning out to be the impetus and people are recognizing that fact.

Apparently, the Bush admin was prepared to take out Iran's facilities but now Israel is alone.

The purpose of the thread is, is this leading to gog war, hence the title, "War - gog on horizon?"

People are recognizing the "fact" that Obama is the driving force behind what? Be specific. Is he the driving force behind the NWO, the destruction of Israel, or the forfeiture of American sovereignty?

Evidently the Bush administration was not prepared to take out Iran's facilities since they didn't proceed. Read your Bible. Israel is not alone. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will supernaturally protect her from those who concern you.

The purpose of this thread is sensationalism. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a venue to voice your theories, dislikes, and frustrations with the current office holders. Things change so fast in today's world that prediction has a greater chance of making you look foolish rather than informed.

In Christ,
Tracey

 

[chingchang]

Instead of being tough and standing strong on Iran, Obama is placating them. He's being a shivering little lap dog to Iran. Iran said they're not going to stop their nuclear program and Obama blinked, then agreed to their terms.

Now, Israel has to go it alone, knowing that Obama is a wimp.

He will go down in history as the worst president...ever.

Jen...really...you have got to stop watching FOX News. Obama is NOT the issue. If our Military Industrial Complex wants war with Iran...we'll get it...nothing Obama can do about it. Obama is a mouth for the power-elites. Don't get me wrong...Obama is complicit. But he isn't the source of our "problems".

Furthermore...it is concerning that you associate Obama and "wimpiness" simply because he's not choming-at-the-bit to bomb another country. As followers of Yeshua we should take his teachings to heart and implement them. Yeshua taught CLEARLY on how to hanlde our "enemies"...and it didn't involve bombing them or invading their country.

Oh...and one more thing...you are aware that Israel has nukes? Do you know where they came from? We don't have to defend poor little Israel...

CC

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

With resepect, this thread is sounding like those complete religious basket-cases in the USA which call for the destruction of Iran, because they have a perverted and twisted eschatological worldview. This sort of thing makes normal Christians out to be of the same ilk.. insane and evil.
Shame on you!

 

[get it right]

With resepect, this thread is sounding like those complete religious basket-cases in the USA which call for the destruction of Iran, because they have a perverted and twisted eschatological worldview. This sort of thing makes normal Christians out to be of the same ilk.. insane and evil.
Shame on you!

Did someone call for the destruction of iran.
But the destruction of their wrong nuke ambitions, then definately, their leader has threatened destruction of israel.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Yeah, nobody here is calling for Iran to be destroyed. As Get it Right said, Iran said that when they get the bomb, they're going to take out Israel which is why Israel is taking Iran's nuclear program seriously.

Iranian official: If threatened, we will use nuclear weapons - Israel News, Ynetnews

Islamic nations like Iran, Syria, and Gaza are sworn to the destruction of Israel. This is a publically stated fact and a Biblically stated fact (Psalm 83).

I don't see how the "shame on you" comment really applies, 'goldfish.

 

[get it right]

Yeah, nobody here is calling for Iran to be destroyed. As Get it Right said, Iran said that when they get the bomb, they're going to take out Israel which is why Israel is taking Iran's nuclear program seriously.

Iranian official: If threatened, we will use nuclear weapons - Israel News, Ynetnews

Islamic nations like Iran, Syria, and Gaza are sworn to the destruction of Israel. This is a publically stated fact and a Biblically stated fact (Psalm 83).

I don't see how the "shame on you" comment really applies, 'goldfish.

i don't see how the "insane and evil" comment applies ever.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

i don't see how the "insane and evil" comment applies ever.

LOL! I missed that part...yeah, that's not good.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

THE CONSTANT ATTEMPT TO TAKE ANY (oops sorry caps) international mention of Israel or Iran and turn it into "ZOMG! The Rapture's coming! We need to totally bomb Iran!" seems pretty close to insane and/or evil to me.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

THE CONSTANT ATTEMPT TO TAKE ANY (oops sorry caps) international mention of Israel or Iran and turn it into "ZOMG! The Rapture's coming! We need to totally bomb Iran!" seems pretty close to insane and/or evil to me.

First of all, the question is if Israel possibly going it alone and taking out Iran's nukes is an impetus to Ezek 38.

Secondly, what's a ZOMG?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

First of all, the question is if Israel possibly going it alone and taking out Iran's nukes is an impetus to Ezek 38.

If you say so.

But have you ever considered, even for a moment, that maybe its NOT a Biblical event, and maybe its just yet another minor blip in the maelstrom that is international politics?

I'd like to refer you to

Jeremiah 10 (NIV)
2 This is what the LORD says:
"Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the sky,
though the nations are terrified by them.

Secondly, what's a ZOMG?

A brainless valley girl-esq exclamation.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

If you say so.

But have you ever considered, even for a moment, that maybe its NOT a Biblical event, and maybe its just yet another minor blip in the maelstrom that is international politics?

I'd like to refer you to

Yes, it could be or this could be the hook in the jaw that brings gog into Israel...hence the point of the thread.

A brainless valley girl-esq exclamation.

Oh, now don't think that way, I'm sure you're very intelligent.