Video, Coulter Draws Ire For Comment About ‘Single Moms’

[Johnboy60]

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=254913

 

[comana]

I can't say anything nice about her other than she is good at what she does which is to rile up conservatives and rake in the money.

 

[Billnew]

Got a quote?
I can't watch video.
I think I heard it, but don't remember what it was.

 

[jsn112]

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I can't watch video.
I think I heard it, but don't remember what it was.

I don't know why the liberals hate her so much. What she stated is facts, really. I heard she said on Hannity and Combs something like 70-80% of prison inmates are raised without fathers. It's a fact people. Maybe she wasn't political correct enough, I guess. Maybe she should have said 20-30% of prison inmates are raised with fathers, so not to hurt the liberal's feeling.

 

[kermit]

I don't know why the liberals hate her so much. What she stated is facts, really. She heard she said on Hannity and Combs something like 70-80%% of prison inmates are raised without fathers. It's a fact people. Maybe she wasn't political correct enough, I guess. Maybe she should have said 20-30% of prison inmates are raised with fathers, so not hurt the liberal's feeling.

The problem is that she blames single moms without any in-depth analysis. Is the problem that these people are raised without a dad or that single moms are more likely to live in poverty? Correlation does not equal causation. 100% of all prison inmates breath oxygen.

Notice that Coulter doesn't say that the problem is dead-beat dads. No she chooses to blame their victims which are struggling moms and their children.

The likelihood of a person ending up on jail is related to their socioeconomic condition not whether or not they have two parents.

 

[jsn112]

The problem is that she blames single moms without any in-depth analysis. Is the problem that these people are raised without a dad or that single moms are more likely to live in poverty? Correlation does not equal causation. 100% of all prison inmates breath oxygen.

Notice that Coulter doesn't say that the problem is dead-beat dads. No she chooses to blame their victims which are struggling moms and their children.

The likelihood of a person ending up on jail is related to their socioeconomic condition not whether or not they have two parents.

So, you're not worried about 50% divorce rate, teenage pregnancy, empowered women wanting to raise kids all by herself, etc. It's not her job to say what you want to hear. She's just stating statistics. Her statistics backs her up. No more, no less and people are angry at her for stating facts.

 

[Crusader05]

So, you're not worried about 50% divorce rate, teenage pregnancy, empowered women wanting to raise kids all by herself, etc. It's not her job to say what you want to hear. She's just stating statistics. Her statistics backs her up. No more, no less and people are angry at her for stating facts.

No one is saying those aren't issues but Coulter wants to lay all the blame on single moms when the issue is a lot more complex than that. She is stating her opinion not "facts". It was said above, coorelations doesn't prove causation and many issues such as poverty and education play a role in this.

Also, what are the greater implications of Coulter laying the blame for crime at the feet of single moms? Should we blame the moms who have been abandoned by the child's father? Should we force women to stay with men who abuse them?

 

[comana]

So, you're not worried about 50% divorce rate, teenage pregnancy, empowered women wanting to raise kids all by herself, etc. It's not her job to say what you want to hear. She's just stating statistics. Her statistics backs her up. No more, no less and people are angry at her for stating facts.

People are angry at her for pinning all the blame on single mothers without taking into account other factors such as income and education, or most obvious- the abscent fathers.

 

[Billnew]

People are angry at her for pinning all the blame on single mothers without taking into account other factors such as income and education, or most obvious- the abscent fathers.

The weird thing,
widowed partners kids usually remain in the married statisitcs range. But abandoned kids(Divorced, or never married single parent) that never or rarely see one parent usually fall into the despair.

I can't remember which quote this was, she even admitted she knew this one would get the media attention. Without the quote, I can't remember her side of the story.

 

[comana]

The weird thing,
widowed partners kids usually remain in the married statisitcs range. But abandoned kids(Divorced, or never married single parent) that never or rarely see one parent usually fall into the despair.

I can't remember which quote this was, she even admitted she knew this one would get the media attention. Without the quote, I can't remember her side of the story.

That doesn't seem weird to me. I imagine that the loss of a spouse brings about attention from family and friends who want to help and do what they can ease the burden on the now single parent. I also imagine that single mothers who have similar support from the start raise children who turn out statistically similar to those raised in two parent housholds.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I think it has more to do with the way the parent or parent's style and the type of people they allow in there lives.Maybe they should do a study on other factors of these inmates that where raised by single parent's and the ones that where raise by two parent families.I don't get why it's such a bad thing for liberals to encourage people to raise their children by there self instead of staying in a bad or abusive situation.

 

[Garyzenuf]

I don't know why the liberals hate her so much. What she stated is facts, really. I heard she said on Hannity and Combs something like 70-80% of prison inmates are raised without fathers. It's a fact people. Maybe she wasn't political correct enough, I guess. Maybe she should have said 20-30% of prison inmates are raised with fathers, so not to hurt the liberal's feeling.

Or she could have talked about the high percentage of people in prison who are Christians, wouldn't make her any less of a neo-con wing-nut.

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[jsn112]

Or she could have talked about the high percentage of people in prison who are Christians, wouldn't make her any less of a neo-con wing-nut.

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You mean high percentage liberal "Christians" in prison? Sure, go have a ball with it and I'll join you.

 

[Secundulus]

Or maybe we could all just admit the a two parent family, mother and father, works better than either of the alternatives. Put aside partisan politics and this answer is obvious.

 

[InterestedBystander]

When does Coulter not draw ire for her comments?

 

[Phylogeny]

Or maybe we could all just admit the a two parent family, mother and father, works better than either of the alternatives. Put aside partisan politics and this answer is obvious.

I'd say that extended family works better than the a two parent household. Children used to be surrounded by aunts and uncles and grandparents and I know in developing nations, that's considered the 'superior' way to raise kids than the 'alternative' of having only a mom and dad.

But does that mean most Americans are bad parents? Is the rise of the nuclear family that is causing the 'breakdown of society'?


.....or maybe there are many ways to raise kids.

Since statistics are so beloved here, here's an interesting item. In Japan, whole generations of children were raised by single moms because their dads were never home during the day (many Japanese salaryman used to get home from work at 10pm). The average Japanese man in the early 90's spent an average of 7 minutes per day with their kids. Yet Japan has not nearly the incarceration rate that the US has....hmmmm



So maybe Coulter is talking out of her ass. Correlation does not equal causation. If we found out 70% of prison inmates also like steak, does that mean eating steak causes people to commit crime?

Statistics can easily lie if not given in the proper context. What about the statistic that ask whether the 70% of prisoners were from low-income single women vs. high-income women? Are the prisoners coming from high-incomed single mothers who are bankers, doctors, lawyers? I highly doubt it. It seems the underlying thread of single moms and prisoners isn't the martial status of the mothers but their economic status.

What about lesbians? Statistics show that lesbians raise kids who turn out no different than heterosexual couples.

Hm, perhaps there's more to the relationship of single mom--> prisoners than a simple path. Lesbians, wealthy women, and Japanese salarymen all seem to point to a more complex phenomenon than saying no father = criminal men.

But I guess saying that poverty contributes to crime doesn't sound as good to Ms. Coulter as saying that single motherhood is the bane of society.

 

[kermit]

So, you're not worried about 50% divorce rate, teenage pregnancy, empowered women wanting to raise kids all by herself, etc

Red herring

It's not her job to say what you want to hear.

No, it's her job to lie for the far right.

She's just stating statistics. Her statistics backs her up. No more, no less and people are angry at her for stating facts.

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" The problem with raw statistics is that they can be used to peddle any lie you want. I doubt that Coulter breaks up her statistics by socioeconomic status because that would undermind her preconception.

 

[jsn112]

Red herring


No, it's her job to lie for the far right.


"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" The problem with raw statistics is that they can be used to peddle any lie you want. I doubt that Coulter breaks up her statistics by socioeconomic status because that would undermind her preconception.

Do you really think she's the only one who points out this data? What if Katie Couric points it out instead? Are you still going to defend your statement as well? Please, don't be an enabler because that's what you are doing.

 

[CCGirl]

Lets face it..........she is a nut case.

 

[Axioma]

Coulter, you are an epic troll.