US Supreme court hears arguements about Assisted Suicide

[lonnienord]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051005/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_assisted_suicide
your comments please!

 

[blueapplepaste]

I thought that the Republican party and Bush prided themselves on states' rights? They're always talking about, when it comes to various issues, to let the states and their voters decide state by state. Well the voters of Oregon have spoken, why try to interfere? Why try to undo the will of the voters??

 

[george78]

I thought that the Democratic party and Liberals prided themselves on judicial supremecy? They're always talking about, when it comes to various issues, to let the courts and the judges decide issues of importance. Well the Supreme Court is speaking, why try to interfere? Why try to undo the will of the judges??

 

[trunks2k]

I thought that the Democratic party and Liberals prided themselves on judicial supremecy? They're always talking about, when it comes to various issues, to let the courts and the judges decide issues of importance. Well the Supreme Court is speaking, why try to interfere? Why try to undo the will of the judges??

Ummm... assuming what you say is true, nobody here is saying anything bad about the judges. But rather the Bush admin whom, if it was really about state's rights, would not have brought the suit in the first place.

 

[lonnienord]

the liberals like courts when they agree with them
the conservatives like the states when they agree with them but they are packing the courts so they will go with the courts until Hillary starts putting liberals on. (I am assuming that Hillary will be our next president.)

my opinion is that GOD should be the center of everything and GOD is pro life.

 

[419gam]

I don't think anyone should be able to dictate the terms under which you must continue to live. How is suicide the states buisness? Why should suicide only be an option for those able bodied enough to carry it out unassisted. Also why put someone through having to find the body, the costs of investigating whether or not it was suicide or homicide. Gather up some witnesses and a notary sign your intent to die, and a doctor takes you to lala land. How is that objectionable?

 

[lonnienord]

Only GOD has the right to decide weather a person lives or dies

 

[419gam]

Why legislate this though? Those that believe they are owned by God can act accordingly. Why is it neccesary to force this on everyone?

Also does this apply to War as well. We can't have soverignty over our own lives, but we can choose who lives and dies on the battlefield for political purposes. I support U.S. prescene in Iraq, but using the above logic it seems like Christians should oppose it, instead they overwhelmingly support it.

 

[DhaliClone]

Only GOD has the right to decide weather a person lives or dies

Technically, God doesn't have "rights." Rights imply that there is someone above you that is allowing you to have this freedom. Since there is nobody above God, he doesn't have "rights."

You could say, "Only God can choose who lives or dies," I guess.

But, it doesn't even matter, because laws aren't passed and judicial decisions aren't made based on whether or not God would approve or disapprove. Court decisions are made based on legal precedent and what Constitutional basis they have.

You have to be able to come up legal or ethical reasons to be against this, because even I can come up with some.

Words and stuff.

Also good points. You shouldn't force someone to follow your religious beliefs. They should be able to act according to their beliefs, not be forced to comply with the beliefs of others.

Although, I don't agree with you on our presence in Iraq.

 

[lonnienord]

Why legislate this though? Those that believe they are owned by God can act accordingly. Why is it neccesary to force this on everyone?

Also does this apply to War as well. We can't have soverignty over our own lives, but we can choose who lives and dies on the battlefield for political purposes. I support U.S. prescene in Iraq, but using the above logic it seems like Christians should oppose it, instead they overwhelmingly support it.

I am totally prolife and hense oppose all war.

but you make a good point in the first paragraph. i am going to think out loud: i am against murder hence i am against war, abortion, death penality and physician assisted sucicide. does the last one fit in there? i think so. What i learned in a medicial ethics class is that we doe whatever we can to make someone comfortable and if a side effect of that is death that is ok as long as the person agrees.

 

[eldermike]

If people have a right to die and the decision is left up to them for now how, much better will things be when the government takes the decision part away (only one law suit away folks) and runs the program from Washington? How many of you think that everyone has the right state of mind to make this decision, what is the test?
Yep, one case and it's right in the hands of your Uncle.
We could have regulated right to death which really means based on a set of guidlines you are allowed to live. If you can't see the value of protecting life, then get ready to see the mess your government officials will make of it going forward.

 

[kermit]

Only GOD has the right to decide weather a person lives or dies

But God gives us free-will.

 

[Quantos]

My 0.02$

Dont agree with assisted suicide. But I dont have a problem with allowing life support equipment to be turned off, and medication given for pain. Yes both actions will lead to the persons death, but they are not the same.

Both my parents have died, but could of been kept alive for many years IF we wanted them to be kept hooked up to machines. They would of never recovered to this date though.

 

[JPPT1974]

My 0.02$

Dont agree with assisted suicide. But I dont have a problem with allowing life support equipment to be turned off, and medication given for pain. Yes both actions will lead to the persons death, but they are not the same.

Both my parents have died, but could of been kept alive for many years IF we wanted them to be kept hooked up to machines. They would of never recovered to this date though.

Don't agree with it either. But also I don't think you should turn off life support. I agree that the machine needs to be on as long as it will be on.

 

[invisible trousers]

3 cheers for fair weather federalism

If people have a right to die and the decision is left up to them for now how, much better will things be when the government takes the decision part away (only one law suit away folks) and runs the program from Washington? How many of you think that everyone has the right state of mind to make this decision, what is the test?
Yep, one case and it's right in the hands of your Uncle.
We could have regulated right to death which really means based on a set of guidlines you are allowed to live. If you can't see the value of protecting life, then get ready to see the mess your government officials will make of it going forward.

there are several other nations which allow euthanasia. have they followed the slippery slope which you're predicting?

Don't agree with it either. But also I don't think you should turn off life support. I agree that the machine needs to be on as long as it will be on.

an unconscious body indefinitely hooked up to a respirator is a sick parody of what life is.

I thought that the Democratic party and Liberals prided themselves on judicial supremecy? They're always talking about, when it comes to various issues, to let the courts and the judges decide issues of importance. Well the Supreme Court is speaking, why try to interfere? Why try to undo the will of the judges??

that's kind of funny since the law was upheld by the 9th circuit court of appeals. wait, 9th circuit? i think this is where you're supposed to start complaining about "judicial activism" and "legislating from the bench"

 

[eldermike]

there are several other nations which allow euthanasia. have they followed the slippery slope which you're predicting?

Read this first, then just use google if you want other sources. http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/euthanasia/eu0025.html