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to be a christian and have the messiah delusion

Discussion in 'Psychosis and Schizophrenia' started by xounstaer, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. xounstaer

    xounstaer his qualities..

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    are you a pharisee?

    Jesus told his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.
    6. Mt 17,10

    The disciples asked Jesus, “Don't the teachers of the Law of Moses say that Elijah must come before the Messiah does




    why dont you go read again??

    no richt now my feet are not chained and i can go outside.
    how come you puch me in the ground, shouldnt you be happy i still live and have not commited suicide like thousands of other people/chlidren who believe. and get locked up.

    wont you betray then for some perhaps?

    good luck brother of decieve.

    salut.

    2000, and has any changed.

    and honestly from one believer here to another, go ask the holy spirit.

    besides that there is only one god. and that is not jesus. god has no name.

    greets
     
  2. thesunisout

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    If you commit suicide, you'll end up in hell. Until you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you are not saved. I am praying for you. Is your delusion worth eternity in hell? You need to repent of your sins and give your life to Jesus.
     
  3. yellowflower

    yellowflower Newbie

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    I have red the post of the one with the so called messiah delusion, but not the answers as it is late. Reading through many other forums, that many feel left alone and desperately seeking the right answers and help and therapy. That no one is realy willing to give this to us.
    On messiah delusion, yes is good to think like this. Is a protection, but what if it is not?
    I had my experience with Jesus and was told what I see is real and not a joke, get this in your head and go regularly to church. That was 18 years ago. I don't want to be a good Bible follower as I think the Bible should be burned as it is too much about men and war and we these days live the new Bible stories and we should write our books about it. I don't realy like the church as it is a men's church. Men rape women, they talk about sex, they go to war and lead a church, what?
    So Jesus was there sitting on a chouch with me and if I would have been stronger he would have been there a bit longer. I want to ask him as well lots of things and share with him, and I have started a spiritual diary. I read each morning one page in a prayer book, then the verse I read up in the Bible then in A Course in Miracles and I want to read the Choran and other books. I feel there is a connection and life. And if I pray on certain things sometimes something comes out of it.
    I hear voices so one day I got the idea to pray on it. So I told God that I would not be able to distinguish his voice from any other. So the first example was a vision and in the church next day a word.
    From then on I hear the voice of God espechially when I don't take medication. Last time I was thinking about that what I experience is life giving and alive, where all these Armaggaddon stories people talk about and people believe in is death. Jesus said nothing about it to me.
    10 minutes later I got a vision from all about the Freemasons and that the signs, their signs were fare more complicater and fuller then you can find in books or in films.
    Then ok that could be the explanation, but then why destruction, why not as a little person go to your local political groupe and discuss the issue of the Freemasons and have them vorbidden. And on points like this I usually see a huge white star.

    So little person sees big political things, means you can talk about it in environmental or political groups.
    Then I hear eveil voices sometimes, realy ugly monster voices. Which can realy upset me as I am still are.
    So I am a person that feels not well with other people and today I was in a personal coaching groupe setting. Everything went fine and the girls laughed with me and then one went away and I thought I heard that one told to the other that I am stupid. So I got upset, did not talk to her and she went away. I then saw a demonface somewhere staring at me. So I pray, nothing happens. It went away after we had all another training round and I had to talk with lots of people. So, huch. So we can analyse this experience. Is like communication.
    Simply saying this is bla bla bla worthless dilussions is useless and will bring nothing, but working with it.
    So what you should do is writing everyting down, analyse it, see it as a communication, think what you could do with it.
     
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  4. yellowflower

    yellowflower Newbie

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    Again, I have just red and that very fast the first article from you. So I can remeber what thesunisout says. I find that something has happened in this world, our religious madness grew because we are disconnected and our thoughts are filled with lots of noise and things. We can't feel the right things anymore, because we have strange feelings in our body. One thing Jesus tought me is that with the Jesus there is no craziness, no pain, no strange feelings! Again get this in your head.
    I find the modern world is the one with school, TV, newspapers, bills and medicine. Where without medicine I can feel ok, I can feel a prayer, my writing, and it is ok, is perfect. And that was his teaching, I had to know the difference and that what I feel is what I have to go for not ignore it and make something more crazy out of it.

    We have to go back to feeling again. We are so full with stuff that we can't feel anymore the right thing.
     
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  5. yellowflower

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    you have to analyse what happened before and afterwards, simply as that. Get a life, get friends, life.
     
  6. xounstaer

    xounstaer his qualities..

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    hi yellowflower.

    i am glad reading what u said, not a word seems strange. get a life and friends i try too.

    also need i try a lot to speak right, watch my mouth, not say anything wrong. never listen to a voice or let my mind get confused by earthly powers or visuals and such which can be mentally.

    try to remain correct aboying to jesus words and handle. keeping rules of privacy. trying not to mess up your mind or anyone elses either.

    try to keep the world walking the right path, or whatever path that is. i mean i can encourage you to keep your mind clear. and to keep telling be logical, be logical. stay with treu facts.

    realise i am not a complete [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].
    realise the bible can back me up by far and that i know what is in it without reading it.

    realise the wisest of all was christ and that he has pointed it out the best.

    realise all kinds of theories as wel. and christs words.

    the people dont even listen to christs words i guess.

    and i am not the second best fool that comes a long saying messiah or so.

    i guess these people who believe so much in christ, haven't listenned to him at all. or john.

    mind i still say what has changed in 2000 years or mind i say moses was there before, not?

    why dont these people just speak there none believe to moses then?
    i mean for those who denie me in this that is then.
    i mean thay havent listenned a word to christ.

    i spose puaulus most be moses then and that the people love him.

    greets

    i say again, that i guess you all know yourself what all has been said by the bible.
    so i dont really pcik on anyone.

    but saying i dont belive in christ or that i dont feel holes in my hands and feet, is not treu.

    greets
     
  7. aprilshowers80

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    Dear Schizophrenic brother or sister, precious heart, because I have experienced it myself, I know the confusion and the pain that you have been through. Whether you think you are far greater than you are, or far worse, I assure you there is a Savior. You are not that Savior, nor are you beyond saving. I pray that there is a part of you that can honestly see through the cloud of confusion. The type of schizophrenia that I am familiar with, is the type that believes lies. Fearful soul, it will be okay. There is a God that sees and knows all of your sins, and is willing to forgive. This forgiveness extended does not overlook what you have done or what you have thought that was sinful, but instead places all sinful thoughts and actions upon the sinless God-man Jesus Christ as He died on a roman cross two thousand years ago for all who believe. This, though miraculous, and kinda far out, is the core of reality, and those who reject it will find misery once their drugs have burned out and their façade of worldly satisfaction proves false. ( I am not saying to stop taking meds. I take meds and they help, but they are NOT my salvation) Do you trust in people to save you? They will die eventually, they will prove themselves imperfect. What you need is a perfect Savior, and only the God man is, Jesus Christ the righteous. Do you trust in wealth to make you secure, to fulfill every pleasure? We lay it all possessions down when we step past the door of death into eternity, and I promise eternity is not empty nothingness, and I promise eternity is not reincarnation. It is either all wonderful, creation-perfection, living in close fellowship with our very good Creator, or it is separation from Him in torment. But be at ease, right now, in this moment, you have a choice. Christ says in Revelation, Behold I stand at the door and knock and any man who hears My voice and opens the door, I will come into him and dine with him and he with Me.” There is no sin, no sin, no sin that is too great. The blood of Jesus is so powerful that I believe that it set Jeffrey Daumer free from sin before he died in prison. Yes, Christ’s blood will set even the worst of all sinners free. In Jeremiah, the bible says that the human heart is "deceitful and desperately wicked." Some people are more aware of how awful their heart is. Some are less aware. Some people display their awful heart through their actions. Some people it is more subtle. We are all selfish. And we all have had unbelief. We all, by our actions have denied our Creator, and by so doing, have called ourselves God, which is pride, which is the root of all sin. Which deserves eternal hell. Even the apostle Paul called himself the chief of all sinners. Can you see? This is why we desperately need our God to save us. Christ is the only man who has ever lived that is truly righteous. And the miracle is, that if we put our faith in Him, that He is fully God and fully man, that He died for our sins and rose again on the third day, conquering sin and death, then we are saved. Another part to this beautiful reality is, that if we do this, we have Christ’s imputed righteousness placed upon us. Imputed means to attribute or ascribe. “He who knew no sin became sin for us so that we might become the righteousness of God.” God’s perfect justice is fully satisfied simultaneously as He displays His perfect mercy and love. (see Romans 3:21-26). We are not perfect, but God looks at us and sees Christ instead of our sin. We are justified in His sight. “there is no greater love than this that a man lay down His life for His friends.”--John 15:13 And that is what you are, if you put your faith in Christ, you are His friend. The bible also refers to Him as our Shepherd, and we are His beloved sheep that He keeps a watchful loving eye over. He holds the lambs in His arms. Oh, dear one, read Isaiah 53. It is a prophecy undeniably about Christ written 700 years before His birth. If I know schizophrenia, or atleast the type that I am familiar with, your mind is restless, seeking satisfaction. Even if it is, saving the world from the Russians, or getting away from the unreal cameras that are in your apartment (there are no cameras in your apartment, that is a lie). Even if it is to solve the world's energy crisis somehow through your thinking and/or building, or if you think you are Buddha, or the great one, or Jesus, or if you think you are the devil himself, these are all lies. There, now rest in the truth of Jesus Christ. The only source of true rest. I have schizophrenia. I have gone to the extremes of thinking I am the enlightened savior of the world to thinking I am some evil witch woman cursed in the bible (which was a total misinterpretation of Scripture). But I tell you, with the help of God’s word, my bible counselor, and folks from my church that love me and are helping me see the truth and practice it, I am learning how to have a sane mind that I trust control to my sovereign and good God. If you have it in your head, that people can hear your thoughts, or you can hear other people’s thoughts, I invite you to know and believe through the power of the Spirit of God, that the word of God is 100% true from Genesis to Revelation, and that it teaches in Scripture that people can’t hear other people’s thoughts. In 1 Corinthians 2:11 it says in the NASB “Who among men can know the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man within him, even so, the thoughts of God, no one knows except the Spirit of God.” No one can know your thoughts. For me, this truth was such a blessing. I can trust God’s word as truth and rest. I can rest that my soul is safe and completely loved by the most powerful being in the universe who is in complete control of all circumstances of life, and I can trust that He works all things for the good to those who love Him and are called according to His purpose (Romans 8:28). And I can trust that He is worthy to be praised and I am not and you are not. That He is God and I am not and you are not. That I am not so awful that I am beyond salvation, but despite my awfulness, Christ came to die for sinners. For salvation cannot be earned. It is completely His work. “By grace you are saved, through faith, not by works it is a gift of God so that no one may boast.”--Ephesians 2:8 Rest. Rest your soul. Find the rest that you have been looking for for so long. You cannot save yourself. Only He can save you. Surrender yourself to Him. Believe on Him. John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him, shall not perish but have everlasting life.” I still struggle with the lies of schizophrenia sometimes, so it is a fight to believe the truth at times. But the more I practice truth, the more natural it becomes. But we MUST FIGHT THE LIES. SATAN IS THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION AND THE FATHER OF LIES. and 2 Timothy 1:7 "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and a sound mind." God is good all the time. He is good toward you. Remember, He is standing at the door, knocking. Read psalm 103 if you get the chance, I am sure a bible is not too far away. He says, “Come to me all who are weary and heavy laden and I will give you rest, for My yoke is easy and My burden light.”--Matthew 11:28 Don’t let the world deceive you…He also said “I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes unto the Father except through Me .”--John 14:6 There is no other way to be saved. God bless you. May you come to know the truth that will set you free. Dont expect to be healed all at once, though, it is possible for God to do this. I still take meds, and I have friends that still take meds, but by God's grace, we are able to practice believing and trusting Christ to liberate us from these lies. The word of God is more powerful than any two edged sword. And we are to take captive our thoughts to the obedience of Christ. --2 Corinthians 10:5 And we are to discipline our minds to think on truth. "And now, dear brothers and sisters, one final thing. Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure, and lovely, and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise. " --Phillipians 4:8. I love you. May you overcome by the blood of the Lamb. I promise, it is more powerful than anything you are dealing with right now.
     
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  8. xounstaer

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    i am greatfull for the reply @aprilshowers80

    not a word in what u say i can argue with, or well i could but i wont. the parts you underlined and typed bold where mostly the hardest for me. but in what sense i think.

    i can find me thinking i disagree for example jesus is the route. but he is the route i choose 8 years ago.

    i have about zero to say (comment) about what you say, especially since i feel like you know me.

    yes i see and yes i can reply, but i need to find the rest te really reply. and tell you what you want to hear.

    thumbs up.


    btw didnt daniel explain the kings dream, i had to say.
    i look forward to words like yours..ty

    me; i have taken the route.
     
  9. aprilshowers80

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    I'm going to be praying for you dear one. Jesus will help you if you trust in Him...and even that trust is apart of the grace that He gives to us. Grace means unmerited favor. Meaning, that there is nothing we can do to earn it. Those who come to the cross know that they are not good enough to be saved. They know that they do not have a righteousness of their own. But they need Christ's righteousness to cover them. Galatians 2:21 Philipians 3:9. If you want to, I highly recommend studying the book of Romans...mainly chapters 1 through 8. Ephesians chapters 1 through 3. And Galatians. If you study these verses, and pray for God's help to understand...and God helps you understand...you will have rest. I hope so much that you find it. Maybe ask yourself...does the belief that you are the Christ...does that give you rest? I highly doubt it. Only true rest comes from believing and trusting in the true Christ. Christ is all powerful. Christ has never once thought an evil thought, or done an evil act. If you look at your own life, I am sure that you will see, that like me, you are a sinner in need of a Savior. Fight the lie, dont embrace it. You and I have never met. I only know you in the sense that I know what it is like to struggle believing in schizophrenic lies, and I am still far from perfect.
     
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    1 Cor. 8:5* For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth; as there are gods many, and lords many;
    6* yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.

    /notwoodstock
     
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    In the same verse it states that there is only one true God. As it does in many other places in Scripture. ie. Isaiah 44:6, 45:5 and many others. I believe if you look at the context you will see that Paul is talking here about gods that people believe in, like idols, false gods that people worship. We become like Jesus in His communicable attributes, as we are conformed to His image. THese attributes are things that man can reflect like the fruits of the Spirit. Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self-control. But we are not to share in the attributes of being a god. We are not God. Examples of these attributes are omnipotence (all-powerful), omniscience (all-knowing), omin-presence (the ability to be everywhere at all times), totally sovereign (meaning complete control), we cannot create something out of nothing, God is perfectly holy, perfectly just, the giver of all things good. All His decisions have always been right, all His actions have always been perfect. I am poor in spirit, meaning I have nothing without Him, I am totally bankrupt. So I cry out, in desperation, Abba, save me, be my Savior, because I cannot save myself. If I cannot even save myself, how can I be a god, how can I claim to be all powerful, when i cannot even save myself from myself (from my sinful-self)? Ephesians 2:8 "By grace you are saved, through faith, and that not from yourselves, it is a gift from God, not of works lest any man should boast." You would think that if I was God or a god I would have something to boast about. But there is only one God, Yahweh. And the mystery of God being three persons Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Just look at your own failing and know that God never failed once, never sinned once. 2 Corinthians 5:21 "For God made Him [Jesus] who knew no sin to be sin for us, so that we might become the righteousness of God." We have no righteousness of our own. We are not God. Allah is a false god. Brahma is a false god. Sometimes people worship money as a god. Some people worship themselves as if they are god. These are idols. There is only one God. No other Creator. There is creation, and there is the Creator. There are no created gods, only ones that man has created which are just as reliable as a little wood carving to save us. If we put our faith in ourselves to save ourselves or to save others, we might as well put our faith in a wood carving which is what they did back in biblical times. Only Yahweh can save, because He is the only all powerful all sovereign Creator. I hope this helps.
     
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    Thanks for your answer, mostly I agree!

    Another verse:

    “but speaking truth in love, we may grow up in all things into him, who is the head, even Christ;” Ephesians 4:15, ASV.

    The thing that I do not agree with wholly is if there actually exist such "gods" as the Hindu subgods and the like. My own guess would be that there are such spirits, but I am interested in your answer.

    Best Wishes,

    /notwoodstock
     
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    I believe that scripture teaches that there is only one true God, and that all other gods are not real. You believe that there may be many gods besides Yahweh. Only one answer is correct. The new age teaching is relativism. The new wave in America is the teaching of relativism. Where you can believe what you want to believe and that if you believe it, it is true, atleast for you. So the teaching says that all beliefs are true. But how can that be? There are either more gods than the One God...or there are no gods at all....or there is only the one true God Yahweh. Only one of these teachings can be true. Part of reality is subjective and part of it is objective. New Age teaches that it is all subjective. This will drive a mind insane as it once did mine. The truth is that we are limited creatures in need of something outside of ourselves to complete us. We have a God-shaped vaccum in our hearts that can only be filled by the Almighty objective God (who has never been created...who is the Alpha and Omega, beginning and end). Relativism says that all beliefs are right, but logic points to the reality that all things cannot be correct because there is contradiction. It is like saying that i wrote this response....but someone says that i did not write it. But I know I wrote it and I am convinced that I did, but someone else can be convinced that I did not. Only one person is right, no matter the conviction that they hold. Christ is real...and we really need Him to save us....this i declare....this i believe....I can only ultimately prove it when we die and find out....I go on faith till I see Him and my faith becomes my eyes. Oh blessed day that will be! I really enjoy this discussion.
     
  14. xounstaer

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    you made me happy.

    for all the rest truth is, and for the reality of this discussion it may be well to know the one suffering the messiah delusion has like perfect teachings from above, which may even correspond.

    and are dued to the prophecies of end time and returnal of the lord.

    there is not a word he didnt get'. or knew.
     
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    what would happen to you if you stopped caring about messiah? what kind of delusion would you have if you stopped caring about Christianity? I wonder if someones state of mind would get better or worse if they stopped believing in what their delusion was tied to or if they would just take upon themselves another delusion to "fill the void of insanity"?

    people here are all delusional. they try to enforce laws of their own belief system and keep labeling others that do not agree with them (or that they do not understand ) . as "delusional".

    I am pretty sure when i keep speaking my views that are so contrary to the mass group of sheeple that i will be kicked out of town just as the apostles were often kicked out of places. but human nature needs control and dominance and I guess that is part of the sinful nature that most refuse to admit that they have. lets just pretend that moses was not a messiah and that there are no kings or lords or gods besides the king of kings and the lord of lords and the god of gods and the messiah of messiahs.

    but there have always been black sheep and harmed black sheep that the white sheep must point at and try to harm and accuse so that they feel white as snow but sheep have a lot of ticks that suck their life out.
     
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    You bring up some good points Noxot about the hypocrisy in the Christian circle and I confess in my own heart at times. That sometimes we are forceful about what we believe. How is it right, if God (whom I believe in) gives men a choice to put their faith in Him or not, yet I do not give men a choice, but I force my beliefs on them and say they must must must believe or I will hate them or judge them. I once studied other religions before I was a christian. Never had I ever recieved any persecution for what I believed for being a buddhist...other than the occassional christian trying to convince me otherwise (which i vehemently argued with usually), but now that I am a christian and my beliefs are that if you do not trust in and follow Jesus Christ the sin bearer, than you will have to bear your own sins when judgement day arises...only now am i persecuted. The motive that God would want me to have to spread the message to the world is that people that are on the path of destruction would be saved from that destruction...so love is the only right motive, but occassionally, because of pride and self-righteousness sometimes the motive is twisted and i wish to prove that i am right so that i can be considered "righteous"...yuk...pretty messed up....so i have to say that the body of CHrist, the church is filled with hypocrites...people that sometimes do not represent by their actions what their beliefs are. For example, I may start judging someone because they did something very unloving...when in reality my judgement of them is unloving. The differentiation between judging the sin and judging the sinner should be made. I am sure that God hates all sin and wants His children to hate sin as well and this is righteous to do so, but where it turns into unrighteousness is where I start judging the sinner. WHy is it unrighteous? because apart from God, I am a wicked sinner that deserves the full wrath of God...thank God for Christ who took that wrath for me. And if by some miracle, I should do something that wasnt motivated by selfishness and pride, then it is God's work in my heart. The ten commandments...Do not take the name of the Lord in vain...done that!....do not lie....done that!...do not strongly desire something that someone else has (covet)....done that! do not worship an idol? well an idol is anything i place above God...done that...do not murder...well, I am righteous now arent I?...havent done that....but wait, Jesus says if you are angry with you brother it is the same as murder...do not commit adultery...ok havent done that...but wait...Jesus says if you look lustfully at another person it is the same as adultery...Jesus was more concerned with the heart. The bible teaches that if you break one of the commands of God's law, then you are guilty of the whole darn thing...because God is perfectly holy and perfectly just....His wrath is perfect....but the bible says that He is just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. You have the right to read this or not. Me--free, Christ---punished...I recieve Christ's righteousness...He recieves all my sin and the pain and suffering of the entire wrath of God poured out on Him. Feel free man! Feel free to believe what you want. Truth is not relative though...Real truth is as solid as a rock and unchanging...and you can depend on it and trust in it and rest in it. If I say the only constant in the universe is change...where is the hope. Evolution cannot explain love nor can it explain the complexity of reality. It goes against other scientific laws like the law of entropy. Something cannot form by itself...and if left alone will not become more advanced and complex...it will fall into entropy. We have a choice what to believe. Either the unbeliever in Christ is right...or the believer in Christ is right...both cannot be right. Relativity is a false teaching. Again, I enjoy this discussion. And Xounstaer, I am glad you are enjoying it too, friend.
     
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    relativity is a nice subject to bring up, but what on earth are you going to be left talking about then. it is not a teaching it is a lesson one can learn. it can be useful and handy.

    i just heard the americans had the go on it. that dont mind i had my own go on it with christ with me. thats the sacrifice you can make, to make it all fade away and calm down.

    neh i dont need to talk myself out of anything, but i once wrote a letter, not that i never wrote. but it was about fysicals and stars, then it became about the mind and left the subject it was first about behind. no longer was there any connection regarding 'time' or even perhaps the idea of who it was written to.

    who could i write. who could one' wite.
    who would believe in promises made through out time.

    who would even count on a reader to spend all on the matter. and the matter to become true.

    what is the light? what is the way? what is life? what is the truth besides the facts, like material ones which made a flower?

    lots of words.

    its not about judging here, what are you judging? or who is judging who and what?

    read all and ask yourself here am i rightious and believe whats said? (if its understandable)

    what if i say its time to better know all those words, spoken.

    and yes i bare my own sin. even stronger is walking in his shoes and taking yours too and all sin there may be. that includes my own then ofcourse i suppose....
     
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    aprilshowers80 Newbie

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    I no longer bear my sin. Christ bears it for me. I am not saying that relativity is entirely wrong. My experience of seeing the ocean may be different than your experience of seeing the ocean...in fact in scientific terms, my experience of the ocean is, even at a physical vantage point, different than yours with different stimuli in my view in relative space-time. But what I am saying is that relativity is not a constant. I am just a human being....if I am convinced I am a god, or that i am the messiah...truth wins...therefore my perception of myself as a god is false, because the truth is I am just a human and God is still God. Even though, in my relative perception, I might say that i am god...and there is only one God in reality, then my perception of myself as god is false. Just because I believe something as true from my relative perspective, does not make it true, no matter how sincere my belief. I believe that there is only one God who is all powerful, all knowing, perfect in everyway, who created all things...and I am not Him. If you dont agree...the concept of relativity doesnt win. Only one of us is right...or none of us. Do you see what I am saying? Did I follow you in your thought?
     
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    i agree with almost every word, untill you say only one of us is right, there i disagree :)

    get the feeling to go on with this topic seriously, i thought i spoke spoke so weird and have hard times getting out of bed lately. also had i almost taken my life.

    what paperwork and locking a person up with it can do....................................


    so there is only one god, to be in christian understandings then. he/it/she is the whole. and we are all a part of it, every human, every creature, every thing. so for the moluculs that create the ocean to.

    ofcourse i am aware relativity is not the answer in life. it might be handy to me at times though, to not loose control over my feelings and other aspects that go combined at it with me.

    also can it be upmost handy to keep a messiah delusion under control, wouldnt it?

    you are part of.

    and to you you are the center, perhaps you even have a message, perhaps you can be like the messiah.......(and sure there many more words to explain)

    a part of and center of your own life is certain.

    i look forward to talking about this serious, knowing each other...

    i can learn.
     
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    Aprilshower80,

    I was interested in your opinion about new age in America and also Christianity nowadays.

    Thanks!

    But I also want to encourage you to use newlines in your posts. I have some trouble reading many words, and it is even harder without some paragraph structure. :)

    I will return to read more some other day, now I have felt bad lately, and am afraid to have to go to hospital again.

    Best Wishes,

    /notwoodstock