I thought the question was answered very well. Do you seek to lead us about like a bull with a ring in its nose? Is Galatains 5 of any value on the subject?You didn't answer the question. I would have thought the obvious answer would be 'No.'
It is a leading question designed to draw one away from grace by sophistry?So, would you agree that the Holy Spirit would NOT lead you to murder, adultery, or idolatry?
Last chance to answer clearly.
Yes the HS would not lead us tp those and zillion more bad things that are NOT covered by the OT eg taking drugs, financial white collar crimes etc. In a sense instruction from the HS is more superior than the rudimentary OT law.
For the same reason we do not need to follow the rules and regulations of the OT. If we did we would not need either the Holy Spirit or Jesus.You know, if the Holy Spirit tells you what you need to do and know, why bother with even the NT?
bugkiller said:For the same reason we do not need to follow the rules and regulations of the OT. If we did we would not need either the Holy Spirit or Jesus.
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Good discussion; sorry for butting in but I think important for christians is that Christ fulfilled the law, perfectly, while no one else could before nor can again. The law was fulfilled perfectly but its function did not end; and since no one else can fulfill it perfectly like the Lord, we can only be justified righteous before Gd thru faith in Christ. "By His knowledge my servant will justify many.."Salvwtion is not by the law. We all know "by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God" Eph 2:8
This is the crux of Christianity.
But Paul tells Christians "to work out salvation with fear and trembling" Phi 2:12. - meaning one could actually lose his salvation.
So what do you think the function of the law is? More specifically the function in the life of the Christian seeing we are delivered from the law - Rom 7:6. Paul says through the illustration of marriage one can not be expoused to both the law and grace. Both void the other.Good discussion; sorry for butting in but I think important for christians is that Christ fulfilled the law, perfectly, while no one else could before nor can again. The law was fulfilled perfectly but its function did not end; and since no one else can fulfill it perfectly like the Lord, we can only be justified righteous before Gd thru faith in Christ. "By His knowledge my servant will justify many.."
Steve Petersen said:Isaiah 42:21 It pleased the Lord
for the sake of his righteousness
to make his law great and glorious.
Do you follow the whole 660 law of Moses or only the selected few eg Sabbath, circumcision and tithing?
Steve Petersen said:I follow the ones He gave to Gentiles, plus some of the ones he gave to Jews.
so u dont intend to follow the whole law?
Steve Petersen said:Let's see. Not a cohen so I can't follow the law for priests.
Not a woman. Can't follow their laws.
Not a judge or elder. Can't do them.
Not a leper. Can't do those.
Get the point?
Steve Petersen said:Do sabbath. Was circumcised at birth.
Ritual purity is really only relevant when their is a temple. Don't do them. Some do. Most Jews do.
Pork and shellfish: don't do it.
Just curious, what are you referring to here? My first thought was the Noahide laws.
As for me, the law is irrelevant to me as a Christian and a non jew. The Holy Spirit will teach me all i need to know.