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The Ugly Face of Socialism

Discussion in 'OBOB General Politics Forum' started by BabyChristian22, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. GeminiMoon

    GeminiMoon senior member

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    Ohhh thank you :)
     
  2. BabyChristian22

    BabyChristian22 Newbie

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    Since you and I are both American, then by your own standard you don't know any more about Socialsm than I do. And if that's true then you can't say that I don't know what I'm talking about if we are equal as Americans in knowledge (or ignorance) on the subject of Socialism. But remember that Jim Jones was an American Socialist, and his followers were American and victims of Socialism.
     
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  3. Antigone

    Antigone The Wrath of Whatever

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    Jim Jones' members were the victims of a charismatic idiot. Cultism isn't restricted to the political left.
     
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    S.ilvio Newbie

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    I've been away for a month and some people are still trying to compare me (a Catholic Socialist) with Jim Jones...:D
     
  5. BabyChristian22

    BabyChristian22 Newbie

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    You forgot to mention that Jim Jones was a Socialist.
     
  6. BabyChristian22

    BabyChristian22 Newbie

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    Do you realize that Popes have warned against Socialism? No one called you Jim Jones, but one who continues to believe in the false promise of a Socialist utopia is more likely to be tricked by a charismatic smooth talking Socialist like Jim Jones.
     
  7. religious&reasonable

    religious&reasonable Slayer of Stupid Threads

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    None of your examples are actually socialist. Jim Jones was just purely insane.


    stalin was communist, Kim-Jong is dictatorship/whatever the heck is going on over there, Hitler was a facist, and Ghaddafi is the same as Kim-Jong.
     
  8. BabyChristian22

    BabyChristian22 Newbie

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    Let me get this straight. Are you saying that whoever identifies themself as a Socialist isn't really a Socialist?
     
  9. MikeK

    MikeK The dress is blue and black.

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    Fun related followup:

    Do you believe that anyone who identifies themselves as Christian is a Christian? Do you believe that anyone who identifies themselves as A Socialist is a Socialist
     
  10. S.ilvio

    S.ilvio Newbie

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    Liberation Theology has at its core the teachings of Christ, focussing today on the social and economic inequities of our greed enduced Capitalist society.

    Putting the poor first and condemning the gross injustice of poverty on this planet when there is an abundance of riches that can and should be shared amonst us all.

    I call that Catholic Socialism and will stand by it in Christ until the day I meet him...:)

    So the Radical conservatives can keep throwing the Jim jones slur at me all they like. I will not be detracted in playing my miniscule part in God's plan...
     
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  11. Antigone

    Antigone The Wrath of Whatever

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    I think my work here is done.
     
  12. BabyChristian22

    BabyChristian22 Newbie

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    Since Jesus (God) left us with a Church with authority to teach on His behalf, I leave it to that same Church to determine who is or isn't a Christian. But since Socialism doesn't have one person with more authority than anyone else to say definitively who is or isn't a true Socialist, I have to assume that whoever says they are one is one.
     
  13. MikeK

    MikeK The dress is blue and black.

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    ...but the Church doesn't determine which individuals are Christians and which aren't. Try a little intellectual honesty, it's yummy.
     
  14. SharonL

    SharonL Senior Veteran

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    The beginning of a Socialist society is to lie to them enough that they begin to believe it - we are well on our way to believing the lies.
     
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  15. BabyChristian22

    BabyChristian22 Newbie

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    Since the Catholic Church is the only church that was founded by none other than Christ (God) Himself, she is the only one with the authority that Jesus gave to His church to teach on His behalf. And since being a Christian means being a follower of Christ, one can't logically be a follower of Christ without believing in His teachings. Therefore, the Catholic Church is the only church with authority given by God to say when something someone is teaching is Christianity or not. You asked me how I judge whether or not someone is a Christian, and I told you how. I let the Church decide. Now tell me who in the world is the final authority to say who is or isn't a true Socialist.
     
  16. Antigone

    Antigone The Wrath of Whatever

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    Obviously you're in full process of believing the lie that the US is becoming a socialist state.
     
  17. SharonL

    SharonL Senior Veteran

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    At age 26 - you are the very ones that indoctrination began back in your grade school years, therefore you do not see what I have seen when life was much simpler and loyalty to God, family and country was the order of the day. I do not mean this bad - it is just a fact.
     
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    S.ilvio Newbie

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    America with a social conscience enshrined in Capitol Hill? Sounds good to me...:)
     
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    AMDG Tenderized for Christ

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    But the Popes have already said that it isn't good--in fact, Socialism is bad--it leads to lack of freedom (and encouages lack of responsibility).
     
  20. Antigone

    Antigone The Wrath of Whatever

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    Ah, ageism, that convenient yet flawed creature vainly applied yet rarely successful in getting you out of arguments.

    If the age thingy is correct you would have been my age during the fifties - at the height of the anti-communist cold war propaganda, no?