The Reason Why Job Suffered?

[Achilles6129]

So, how did God answer Job's questions in the "whirlwind speech" at the end of the book?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

So, how did God answer Job's questions in the "whirlwind speech" at the end of the book?

The only thing that wasn't from the beginning of the book was the daughters inheritances.

 

[Achilles6129]

The only thing that wasn't from the beginning of the book was the daughters inheritances.

I'm sorry? What does that have to do with the whirlwind speech?

 

[miknik5]

So, how did God answer Job's questions in the "whirlwind speech" at the end of the book?

Who are you to question my sovereignty in all things

 

[Achilles6129]

Who are you to question my sovereignty in all things

So then the answer isn't something which God will reveal to Job, but something which lies with God himself?

 

[com7fy8]

As I recall, God did not answer any question about why Job suffered. He asked Job questions, which I think were meant to show Job that he was not able to understand God's ways.

One thing I see is that Job still was not as real and humble like he needed to become. He could justify himself, instead of simply trusting the LORD.

Proverbs 3:5-6.

But did that suffering help him?

Though he suffered, at the end he saw Jesus face-to-face. Somehow, possibly, his suffering brought him to that. But the suffering did not teach him what the LORD Himself was bringing out.

It was like this with Paul, too > 1 Corinthians 12:7-15 > Paul had his thorn in the flesh thing, and he wanted the Lord to take it away. So, he was not getting something out of his sufferings. But what helped Paul was to have a little talk with Jesus and heed what Jesus had to say.

In whatever we do or go through, then, I would say, we need how God has us understand and do things.

 

[miknik5]

So then the answer isn't something which God will reveal to Job, but something which lies with God himself?

Job suffered simply because the "hedge" was temporarily removed

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

I'm sorry? What does that have to do with the whirlwind speech?

God wasn't in the whirlwind.

 

[miknik5]

God wasn't in the whirlwind.

That was the story of Elijah

 

[W2L]

Who are you to question my sovereignty in all things

I often get tired of wondering why God does things. I end up so worn out that I just say God is control, not me, and if he kills me then he kills me, if he gives me life then he gives me life. Who am I to war against God? I hope in his righteousness, his mercy.

 

[miknik5]

I often get tired of wondering why God does things. I end up so worn out that I just say God is control, not me, and if he kills me then he kills me, if he gives me life then he gives me life. Who am I to war against God? I hope in his righteousness, his mercy.

The story of Job is for us it was an example in service to us so that we might keep in mind that GOD is sovereign and all things are under His sovereign comtrol

Even when things seem to us to be so out of control

And we are to remember and wait, trusting that HE is faithful and is working out all things for the good for those who love HIM and are called according to HIS purpose

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

That was the story of Elijah

That's what happens when you don't take the bible as a whole

 

[W2L]

The story of Job is for us to remember that HE is in sovereign control and all things are under HIS sovereignty

Even when things seem so out of control

And we are to remember that HE is faithful and is working out all things for the good for those who love HIM and are called according to HIS purpose

That's what I put my hope in.

 

[miknik5]

That's what happens when you don't take the bible as a whole

Do you know why GOD spoke to Elijah? It was a completely different reason from why GOD spoke to Job

And it's important to know the difference between the two conversations

 

[miknik5]

The whirlwind speech to Job was completely different from GOD reminding Elijah that HE is with him not only in the profound earth shattering events but even in the still quiet

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Do you know why GOD spoke to Elijah? It was a completely different reason from why GOD spoke to Job

And it's important to know the difference between the two conversations

God spoke to Elijah because he was losing heart. Seems both the same reason to me

 

[miknik5]

Now with Job it was because Job had made a vow not to open his mouth lest his mouth cause him to sin but after the Constsnt banterings of his friends and his wife, Job opened his mouth

And it was then that GOD spoke to him saying where were you when I did these things?

GOD was not speaking calmly to JOB

That's why it was a "whirlwind" speech

 

[miknik5]

God spoke to Elijah because he was losing heart. Seems both the same reason to me

okay. I agree with that

Because both allowed their carnal lower emotions to interfere with their faith in GOD as sovereign in all seasons

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Now with Job it was because Job had made a vow not to open his mouth lest his mouth cause him to sin but after the Constsnt banterings of his friends and his wife, Job opened his mouth

And it was then that GOD spoke to him saying where were you when I did these things?

GOD was not speaking calmly to JOB

That's why it was a "whirlwind" speech

Do you think he just 'thought' to curse God and die but didn't voice it??

 

[miknik5]

Do you think he just 'thought' to curse God and die but didn't voice it??

No I don't