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The name of God forbidden?

Discussion in 'Spirit-Filled / Charismatic' started by Deba, Nov 9, 2009.

  1. Deba

    Deba The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want (period)

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    I had on CNN for company and they were talking about the Fort Hood gunman shouting Allahu Akbar (god is great) and I thought of this verse:

    While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. 1Th5:3

    So much of the strife in the world is due to religious differences, and the only ways that I can see for a government to deal with the issue is to: (1) takes sides or (2) sweep everything divisive and offensive to someone else under the rug.

    Do you think it is possible that in order to keep peace throughout the world that the public mention of God or god, in any and all languages may one day be prohibited?
     
  2. KingZzub

    KingZzub Blessed to Be A Blessing

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    No.

    I think that it would never come to that, but rather what will happen and does happen is that the meaning of the word God is distorted to mean something other than the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
     
  3. John1032

    John1032 New Member

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    This all began after 9/11, and slowly, and slowly it has been set in motion. If you look back over the past decade you will see the motion of a new gospel being taught, and the restrictions placed upon a country whose beginning began in HIS NAME. I can see that now in America as their President begins to show his deck of cards.
     
  4. bobznew

    bobznew Regular Member

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    Spot on. And the evidence is already out there, in the ways our media attempt to whitewash and sugar-coat the basic principles of Islam.

    As Deba mentioned, the Fort Hood gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar" during his killing spree. Not a surprise there; that's what the terrorists always shout while during their handywork. But the REAL story is in how our news organizations portray this. They claim that "Allahu Akbar" means "God is great". In that sense, it is a definitive statement. Sounds okay, right? After all, they claim to worship the same God that Christians do. And OUR God most definitely IS great!! (Keep reading...)

    However, that is not AT ALL what "Allahu Akbar" means. It is not a definitive statement. It is a COMPARITIVE statement. What it literally means is "God is GREATER". Greater than what? Undoubtedly it means "Our God is greater than the God of the Jews and the God of the Christians." Remember, Islam is basically just a more modern form of Babylonian idolatry. And "Allah" ( short for Al-Ilah, "the moon god") was an ancient Babylonian idol. What Mohammed did was just "repackage" Babylonian idolatry to make it more palatable to those seeking a monotheistic religion. There were DOZENS of Babylonian idols popular during his day; he simply elevated Al-Ilah (the moon god) above the other idols.

    Remember, the "prophet" Mohammed had a fierce hatred of the Jews (and by extension the Christians, as evidenced by the "friendship" between Jews and Christians alluded to in the Koran), since they rejected his claim to be the latest and the greatest prophet. So it takes no large mental leap to see that a statement of faith about their god would be one that elevates him over the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

    Those who claim that the god of Islam is the same as the God of the Bible simply do not know their history, or are engaging in a deliberate attempt to deceive people about this religion. I suspect that as the times draw closer to the end, we will see more and more of the same. Everything other than Christianity will be embraced and loved by a more "tolerant" world, as Christianity is pushed to the sidelines more and more.
     
  5. bobznew

    bobznew Regular Member

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    Yep.

    Have you noticed the great increase in popularity of home Bible studies and praise groups during the past 10-15 years? I've heard one theory on this phenomenon. Maybe the Lord is preparing His church in America to have to operate underground?
     
  6. Deba

    Deba The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want (period)

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    Most folks I run into seem to believe that all paths lead to the same god. The problem being that being a believer of a certain religion, closes the believers' eyes to the wisdom that the non-believer has by being on the outside looking at the chaos within.

    Since tolerance and equality is what is acceptable to most of the peoples on the earth, they may one day decide to keep the peace - like not letting children call each other names.
     
  7. ~Cassia~

    ~Cassia~ Being Built up in Christ Supporter

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    I don't think that "God" is a name. I think it would be better for Christians to name Jesus in their references to whom they follow and the other religions to do the same.
    At least in that way a person would know what "god" they follow.

    Too much is blamed on Jesus when freaks say "God made me do it"
     
  8. KingZzub

    KingZzub Blessed to Be A Blessing

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    Really fascinating. Thanks!
     
  9. KingZzub

    KingZzub Blessed to Be A Blessing

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    Really fascinating post, thanks for posting.
     
  10. KingZzub

    KingZzub Blessed to Be A Blessing

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    I find that among people who really know him, they generally say "Father"...

    No other religion would dare do that, nor would many religious Christians...
     
  11. enoch son

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    The mind of man! Thank God He killed it on the cross.
     
  12. ~Cassia~

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    If you had someone in jail that had just beheaded and cannabolised a person saying "God made him do it" then they should be asked "what god"
    If they say the christian god, the only way to disprove that to them is to define the charachter of christ. Saying Father wouldn't. That's not a clear enough definition nor is it a name. It's a title that many others share.

    Perhaps I should have said "Jesus Christ" as the name of Christian's God. Perhaps too many "christians" would disagree.
     
  13. enoch son

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    Means nothing! No matter what one cry's out the flesh will kill the flesh. Jesus was and is the only one that cried out "Forgive them".
     
  14. KingZzub

    KingZzub Blessed to Be A Blessing

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    I doubt you even know how right you are.

    Google "hate speech laws". If any such laws are ever enacted in the U.S., it would basically become illegal to stand in the pulpit and preach that other religions are wrong.
     
  16. enoch son

    enoch son Guest

    Amen! the nature of the true King crying out. Got someone to His feet didn't it?:blush:
     
  17. freeport

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    No. The majority of the Free World is Christian, the majority of people on the planet believe in God in some way, shape, or form.


    While there are loud atheists out there, the number of atheists is actually extremely small... and today, that means even in officially atheist countries, eg, Communist ones.


    Even among Muslims this guy was in a vast minority. There are plenty of patriotic Muslims out there. We have Muslims "on our side" in Iraq, Afghanistan, even Pakistan.

    Iran, even. A lot of these protesters see us as allies or potential allies.


    People want freedom. They just do not know how to get it.


    They need help.
     
  18. mont974x4

    mont974x4 The Christian Anarchist Supporter

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    God won't be banned, but redefined, as has been stated by other posters. Although I disagree with the time line. It began decades ago, not with 9/11.

    I appreciate the poster correcting the understanding of alla akbar. Far too many people have just accepted the reported (and wrong) meaning.



    what I think will be banned is Jesus and the gospel. It is already illegal in many areas and some laws are already being used to silence the truth because it is a "hate crime" to call a sin a sin.


    I do have the feeling that the church is about to get driven underground for all practical purposes, even if we are allowed to maintain a false front on the surface.


    It is imperative that every pastor, preacher, and teacher study the Word, teach the Word, and teach their flock how to study the Word while we can.
     
  19. ~Cassia~

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    The reason is Christ that that part of the world is free.

    Most people will talk about God, but free will talk about Christ.

    The question of today is "who is Christ?"

    The pagans named christians. I am JC's.
    I don't even want an icon that says christian (a pagan name) I want one that says JC's
     
  20. mont974x4

    mont974x4 The Christian Anarchist Supporter

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    Being called Christian is a badge of honor. It is found in Scripture. It brings with it the endless joy of freedom in Christ and the honor of sharing in His trials and tribulations.

    If we are to reject the title because it was given by pagans then we must reject every word in our language for the same reason for they all have pagan roots.

    My parents were unsaved when they named me Jason. Should I deny it on that basis?
     
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