Hi Randy/Dispy with Jerry quoted and mentioned:
A link to the Opening Post is right here (
link) where Randy is encouraged to
‘quote >>’ anything from MY WORK to begin offering his opposing views using Scripture.
2Tim. 2:15. We all might grow old before he ever accepts the challenge. :0)
Scrolling down through diagrams and long post(s) on pg 2... I didn't notice that Jerrysch had already began to point out the modalist error in Terral's subject matter.
Jerry has just as much right to be wrong as Dispy/Randy and everyone here. This is what Jerry had to contribute in
Post #12, when Hizlamb came to my defense:
I think you are mising the point of one in this passage, just as in;
[h3]Genesis 2:24 [/h3]
24Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
The three are one God, but they eternally exist as Father Son and Holy Spirit. Three persons within the one God.
You guys have bought the common
Denominational Counterfeit that says the Father + Son + Holy Spirit = God, when those are the three witnesses of
“The Word” we know as
Jesus Christ the “Son of God.” John 1:34. This thread and this discussion has everything to do with the
differences between Jesus Christ of the flesh and Christ Jesus the Heavenly “Man” (
1Tim. 2:5 =
diagram)
between God ‘and’ men who contains this entire universe “IN” Himself (
like this). Did anyone else notice how Randy here completely ignored my replies to him in
Post #28 and
Post #30, as I am supposed to be impressed by the fact that he can shout “Heresy!” and “Modalism!” and whatever else comes to his mind?
:0) This is funny. The guy completely ignored everything in my OP presentation to begin talking about Jerry, because he has a case for NOTHING against one thing I ‘did’ write in the Opening Post of this thread. :0)
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit of
Matthew 28:19 are the three witnesses testifying about
“The Word” in the very same way that God To Come (spirit), God Who Is (blood) and God Who Was (water witness Helper) are testify for
“The Almighty” in
Revelation 1:8. The Heavens (spirit), Heaven (blood) and Earth (water witness helper) are the three witnesses of
“This Creation” (
diagram = in blue on right) in the very same way, as all these three witness mystery groups are demonstrated in this diagram (
here). When
“God” (The Almighty) said that man is created in
“Our image” (
Gen. 1:26-28), then He is talking about a
‘triune’ image where man has a spirit, soul (blood witness) and body (water witness helper) as shown in this diagram (
pic).
Christ Jesus bears the same triune
“image of the Invisible God” (
Col. 1:15), because the Father (spirit), Son (blood) and Holy Spirit (water witness
Helper) bears the same exact ‘triune’ image of a man,
the Temple (
diagram)
, the family (
diagram) and all the other triune mystery groups of Scripture (
diagram and
diagram). All of God’s spirit witnesses bear the number
one (1) and all of God’s blood witnesses have the number
two (2) like all of His water witnesses have the number
three (3), so that added together (like F+S+HS) their numbers (1+2+3) equal the number of a man or
six (6). :0)
The Roman Catholic ‘model’ says F+S+HS = God, which means they have the right equation; but they have the
wrong principals plugged into their equation. They are having you worship
“The Word” (F+S+HS = the Son of God) in the place of
“The Almighty” (
GTC, GWI, GWW = the One God), which amounts to nothing more than IDOLATRY. Therefore, what we really have going on here is Randy/Dispy pushing his idolatry on others by coming to my thread, quoting NOTHING from MY WORK, to begin fabricating accusations of Modalism; when he and Jerry are actually the ones blinded by the
‘god of this world’ (
2Cor. 4:3-4) and his
‘deluding influence’ forcing them to
‘believe what is false’ (
2Thes. 2:11) all of their days on the earth. In over three decades of preaching and teaching God’s Word in the USA and abroad, just how many individuals have I witnesses escaping the clutches of the
‘deluding influence’ and the
‘mystery of iniquity’ from
2Thes. 2:7-12??? ZERO!!! None ever escape, because the deluding influence forces them to believe what is false to the very end! That is the very reason that so
“MANY” are running around telling the same exact lies ‘and’ the reason the fate of these CF.com members and readers depends upon figuring out just who is and is not
‘approved’ (
1Cor. 11:19) before men and God (2Tim. 2:15).
When Messiah was on earth in the incarnation the Father was still in heaven as was the Holy Spirit.
Jerry is definitely mistaken, but
‘these things’ from Paul’s
“The Mystery” (
Eph. 3:3, Col. 1:26 =
Vine's) are definitely
“hard to understand” (
2Peter 3:14-16) for the untaught and unstable being led to
their own destruction. God and The Word are
“ONE” and the same thing in
God’s Infinite Realm (
far left), as recorded in John 1:1. “The Word” is then
‘with God’ (John 1:2) in His ‘incarnation’ as
“Heaven” of Genesis 1:1 like Adam is the
“Earth” of the same verse. These three witnesses (God, The Word/Heaven, Adam/Earth) are standing and testifying in Genesis 1:1 ‘and’ in the first three verses of John 1:1-3 in consecutive (John 1:1 = God, John 1:2 = The Word, John 1:3 = Creation) order. Therefore,
“The Word” (John 1:2) is the
‘incarnation’ of “THE WORD” that is INFINITE and ONE with God in
His Infinite Realm even right this moment as we speak!! God had to subject
“This Creation” (Adam) to
futility (
Rom. 8:20-22), because this universe is a mere matrix or representation of just one
“son of God” (
Luke 3:38) that Satan murdered in God’s Infinite Realm ‘and’ The Word has incarnated to
come and save him. :0) This means
“The Earth” of Genesis 1:1 and John 1:3 was ‘pierced’ to beget the heavens, heaven and earth with the Big Bang of Genesis 1:2 ‘and’ God had to also ‘pierce’ (sacrifice)
His Perfect Word/Heaven in order to then send the
“Light” (
Gen. 1:3 =
John 1:4-9) in the
‘triune’ Persons of the Father (spirit), Son (blood) and Holy Spirit (water). Therefore, the incarnation of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as
“The Word/Heaven” has continued to contain this entire universe
“IN” Him (
Col. 1:16-17), even though The Word (F+S+HS) incarnated into this universe as the
“Lord God” of
Genesis 2:4+ ‘and’ Jesus Christ of
Luke 1:35.
Jesus Christ is the
Father ‘and’ the
Son ‘and’ the
Holy Spirit all bound together as
“ONE” and walking around on this earth as the
“Tabernacle/Temple” of the Living God who dwells
IN Him (
Col. 2:9). This is the reason that Scripture says
“God was IN Christ” reconciling the world to Himself (
2Cor. 5:19), because God rested “IN” the Lord God way back in Genesis 2:1-3 to begin this
‘seventh/Sabbath’ day. Jesus Christ teaches that He (the Son) is
IN the Father ‘and’ the
Father is IN Me (
John 14:10-11), because the Holy Spirit is also IN the Son ‘and’ the Son is also “IN” the Holy Spirit the very same way that your spirit, soul and body are
‘one’ and joined together. The sad fact is that
MANY here (the vast majority) do
NOT know the differences between the
“One God” (GTC, GWI, GWW) and
“My Father who is IN HEAVEN” (
Matt. 10:32-33) testifying as the
spirit witness of “The Word” we know as Jesus Christ the
“Son of God.” For these guys to come out here and accuse me of heresy (
heh) is very fitting indeed, because that judgment will be put back on them by God Himself through His Word on the day of Judgment (
Rev. 20:11-15) and everyone here is my witness. :0)
They gave witness to this in Mark 1: 9At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. 10As Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. 11And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased." Here we see the three persons of the Godhead present distinctly from each other.
No sir. We see
“God” testifying about
“The Word” made flesh (John 1:14) and dwelling among men in the world in the Persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. To hold up
“The Word” as “God!!!” to become your object of Deity Worship is what God calls IDOLATRY, because you are worshipping something
IN HEAVEN (see
Ex. 20:4 again), when heaven and even the Highest Heaven
cannot contain God!!! 1Kings 8:26-27. The fact that the whole wide world is running feverishly after the same Roman Catholic/Greek Orthodox/Protestantism
false doctrine will be no excuse in the Day of Judgment, so enjoy your
Modalism Witch Hunt while time still permits. :0) Randy continues his rant:
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