I gave specifics - not anything general. You just want to interpret what I said as general so you can claim anything you want.
Errr... no. You were very explicit:
Justatruthseeker said:
I did not give any definition of a particular kind. I only gave the principle guidance of defining a kind.
No, you see cows giving birth to cows. Horses giving birth to horses.
Are cows vertebrates, mammals, tetrapods?
Why do you say "no"?
Don't mammals give birth to mammals?
Do you disagree that vertebrates produce vertebrates?
You never see a cow giving birth to a horse, nor ever mating with one and producing fertile offspring as with dog breeds.
I never said that we should see cows giving birth to horses. So I wonder why you think it's relevant.
Yes or no: do mammals give birth to mammals?
And yet you also know both the pitbull and the Chiwawaw came from the same animal and are merely different breeds, breeds which then reproduce according to that breed.
Which is quite irrelevant to the point being made.
You very clearly implied that cows and horses are not the same "kind" because cows produce cows and horses produce horses.
Since pitbulls don't produce st bernards, they can't be of the same kind
according to your very own rule.
Except you know both pitbulls and chiwawas have the same ancestor
So do cows and horses, as is evidenced by their collective genome.
and that many of those breeds can mate and produce fertile offspring.
Many? So, not all of them?
Besides, ever seen a dog that looked like a horse or cow?
Ever seen a chiwawa that looks like a st bernard?
We have no evidence apple trees and orange trees originated from the same tree.
Only if you ignore the genetic evidence.
If we did you might have an argument
And we do, so I have.
- as it currently stands you are left with nothing but strawmen.
Lol... head-sand-syndrome.
Although we might consider all citrus trees as being of the same Kind - just different breeds thereof.
Yea, whatever you think fits your ad hoc argument best, ey?
It's quite obvious that you are pulling all this arbitrarily out of your sleeve.
Quite apparent since orange trees can be crossed with other citrus trees - but never the Apple tree.
So, do lemon trees produce oranges?
Are they the same "kind"?