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The 3 Fold Cord/Chord Cafe' (6)

Discussion in 'Young Adults' started by Abigayle's Legacy, Dec 24, 2007.

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  1. djsterf

    djsterf Passionately in Love with the Savior Supporter

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    I've read through Obadiah again in prep for Sunday school class this next semester. There's definitely some really good stuff in there about God's Sovereignty, the downfall of pride, the ultimate justice of God, etc.

    If you all could pray for this next 4 month period. I'll be teaching a Sunday School in the Sun. AMs and preaching in the Wed. evening services. I need to get one set done early on, likely the Sunday school series. 10 weeks on the Minor Prophets.
     
  2. Heart of a Seeker

    Heart of a Seeker Romans 8:28

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    Diana, you're beautiful!!! Inside AND out! Thanks for the pic to show us.

    Guess what? I called the place that I have to go to get my driver's license changed to see what ID I had to bring and the lady told me NO TEST!!!! Geesh!!!! I've been studying my little heart out! NO TEST. Well, hmmmm - I guess it gave my brain exercise. :sigh:

    As far as the wallpaper goes - well, now I just have to get above the stove and fridge...I guess I'll figure that one out as I go.

    Other than that, I'm having a bad hair day and I just twisted it and plopped it on the top of my head.

    And no more turkey - PLEASE. I've been eating turkey all weekend and yesterday and it isn't even appetizing to me at all.

    I am in a good mood - really. really. really. :help:
     
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  3. Ariel

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    That's okay, Carl. You don't have to have wallpaper. I just like the extra dimension some wallpapers can create. Ambience that comes on rolls!

    Wow, Sterling, if you are going to cover the minor prophets in 10 weeks that will be an awesome series! I don't think there is anything minor about them. They cover every topic the "majors" do.

    Yes, I will pray for you. Realize that there is a spirit which causes depression--Jezebel. Look at her effect on Elijah. Also look at John the Baptist, how depressed he got (remember Herodias). This is a spirit which killed prophets in OT times and still attacks today, not so much through individual people as through groups. You can stand against it, by the blood of Jesus and the word of your testimony, Rev. 12:11. No weapon formed against you shall prosper, Is. 54:17.

    Deb, how great is that! NO TEST! And the wallpaper almost done! That's so great!

    I do the same thing you do on bad hair days--twist it all into a french knot, and go on with my day.

    Thanks for your comment on my pic-- You're so kind! I think my husband is having fun.
     
  4. Heart of a Seeker

    Heart of a Seeker Romans 8:28

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    What else do you know about the Jezebel spirit, D?

    I have heard different teachings on it - and that even men can be oppressed by it, just like you said.
     
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  5. djsterf

    djsterf Passionately in Love with the Savior Supporter

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    Ariel: Thanks, I will keep my spiritual eyes wide open.
     
  6. Ariel

    Ariel Servant

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    Jezebel--

    I first became aware of that spirit in the 90's at a small home bible study. It was led by a pastor trainee of a large church. He had a friend who was an intercessor, and he had privately asked her to prophesy over me.

    Before that happened as I was sitting in that living room, I felt like there was something incredibly cold in the room, not physically, but spiritually. I sensed great evil. I looked up and saw a vision with my spiritual eyes I will never forget. In an upper corner of the room, there was this beautiful woman with long dark hair. She looked mid-eastern, and her clothes were similar to the tunic and pants worn by Afghan women. Her hair was long and loose. There was a jewel which was placed in the middle of her forehead, on a fine chain which was woven into her hair. Her eyes were large and dark, widely spaced, lined with eye liner. Her lips were red. She was smiling at me with the most wicked, evil smile I have ever seen.

    A few minutes later this pastor trainee's friend began prophesying over me. Her prophecy was cold and condemning. It was a shock to hear, it was so condemning. I was stunned. Then as I searched my heart I realized that God NEVER spoke to me that way, in such a cold, condemning way. This could not be the Holy Spirit. I looked at my husband and asked him if he received that for me. He was stunned, too. "No," he said. Then I looked at her as well. "I'm sorry, but I don't recieve that," I said.

    The pastor trainee was determined that I receive this prophecy. Instead my husband and I left. This man used that word against me at my church, nonetheless, going to leadership to tell them I was proud and would not receive correction. Of course, I didn't know that then, however.

    I still remember leaving that house. It was so ironic. I had been told by this woman that there was no fruit in my life. She had no children. I had six. She had no husband. I had been married more than 25 years. We had a loving, kind marriage, and had helped many others. As I left, my hostess gathered things which I had lent her, maternity clothes, etc, to return to me. No fruit?

    When I got home that night I was crying. I could feel the curses against me, and I knew that there was something there which was trying to destroy me. I was right, but it would take months to learn all that was done.

    My husband wrapped his arms around me and prayed for me. I was overcome by the presence of God and lay on the floor. And there the Lord visited me with a vision of myself as a tree, planted in a dry place, so dry that there was no water, and no other tall trees. But this tree had deep roots, which went down into the river of the Holy Spirit, many feet underground. And this tree was bringing up water from its roots. Around it in pots were all kinds of smaller trees. The tree's leaves were dripping on them. What was this?

    That night the Lord told me to take my Bible and look up 1 Kings 17, 18, 19, to read about the Jezebel spirit. Wow, what an education.

    Jezebel kills prophets. She hates the prophetic voice. She comes against anyone who truly loves the Lord. If she can't kill them spiritually and even physically she will attack them with depression and make them feel incapacitated, full of doubts, even losing hope. Look what she did to Elijah when he ran from her, and John the Baptist. He even doubted Jesus' ministry when he was imprisoned by her.

    In my church, the Lord showed me this spirit had used many people against each other. I could not pray against her directly, though. There were several lesser spirits which strengthened her--the Absolam spirit, the spirit of Abimelech, the spirit of Tyre and Sidon (buying and selling in the church), the spirit of the Pharisees, and others. Above all, there was the root sin of the congregation, pride, which gave her and every spirit under her strength.

    The way to pray against her was to confess the root sin, pride, and then practice the opposite, humility. Compare for example James 4:6 and 4:10. This was my warfare, to repent. It was then especially that this spirit attacked me with vehemence, coming at me even through the head intercessor who said that I was filled with pride because I would quote the Word of God when I prayed. I was told I shouldn't quote God's Word, God already knows it. Jezebel also came through the head of women's ministries, too. I was told that I was too close to God, that I loved God too much, and that I should step back. I was asked not to go to a womens' conference, and my deposit check was returned. It was amazing. But the Lord would not allow me to open my mouth to defend myself. I was to stay humble, to let them say whatever they wanted.

    God eventually took me out of that church--the vision of the eagle I talked about was instrumental. Later that church split. It still is not the same today.

    Five years later the head of women's ministries apologized to me. I had forgiven her long before.

    Well, this was my beginning of learning about this spirit. I was baptized in fire.

    I know this. God is able to raise up intercessors who truly are called warriors to pray for the body of Christ, and to come against these foul things. No weapon formed against us shall prosper. Also, be aware that not everyone who says they are Christ's are truly His. Many are not. Jesus said we will know them by their fruit. Anything that condemns you, that tries to slam you and take you away from God--that is not the Lord.

    Wow, this is long--I'll stop!
     
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  7. Heart of a Seeker

    Heart of a Seeker Romans 8:28

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    WOW!!!!! I don't know what to say, but this is good to know.

    You are truly a woman of the Lord. You need to share more with us, Diana.
     
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    It's the Lord, Deb--He is amazing. He does teach us, if we will only ask.

    Sterling, the reason I brought this up is because I believe you need to be aware of spiritual causes of depression.

    You can fight depression in several ways. Physically, make sure you are getting enough exercise. That endorphin high which runners get is great! Also, physically, remember what Elijah needed--rest and food. Make sure you are getting enough sleep and proper food, not junk.

    Mentally you can fight by practicing Philippians 4:8 and 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. Don't let yourself dwell on negative things. Cast down those thoughts, and substitute good thoughts, Phil. 4:8.

    Spiritually you can fight by asking the Lord to make you aware of what is coming against you. Then follow Him in warfare, but make sure you are clean, covered with the blood of Jesus and break curses against you.

    Forgive me, dear friends--I am so serious this evening! But you need to be aware that sometimes we are attacked and we can answer those attacks successfully. No weapon formed against us shall prosper, Is. 54:17, nothing by any means shall harm us, Luke 10:19. We are more than conquerors through Jesus Christ who loves us, Rom. 8:37.
     
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    Heart of a Seeker Romans 8:28

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    Yes we are. Something we can forget easily when the pressure from the world gets to be too great.
     
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    That's when we need each other. ((((HUGS)))) Deb! I draw strength from your walk, too!

    It's not that any one of us is so great, but that JESUS is great. When we are together, He is in our midst. We can minister to each other, we can encourage each other.

    How blessed we are to have each other, and more besides--the Lord God of Hosts, He is God, He is with us!
     
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  11. IBLuke226

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    Ariel,

    Very good message... and I quote God's Word too.
    That is what Jesus did in His wilderness trials
    after His Baptism and I will also.


    And I also use the 1 Kings chapters to tell folks how the great prophet had just slain several hundred prophets of baal and then was attacked by jezabel.

    Blessings to you for your words of wisdom
     
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    Oh sweetie, thank you for your prayers.:hug: You are absolutely lovely...just like Deb said, inside and out!

    Of course we'll keep you in prayer, keep us updated!

    Sure you don't want some more turkey? I'll be eating leftover turkey for at least a week!

    That is absolutely amazing! I am in awe...of God and of the mighty way He uses you!

    Hi Carl:wave: How ya doin?
     
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    HiYa,
    :wave:
    I am doing pretty well now.:)
     
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    Mary, you are so kind. And yes, God is awesome!

    Carl--How right you are. Jesus used the Word of God against Satan during the temptation in the wilderness, Matthew 4:1-10.

    The prophets also used the Word of God in prayer, reminding God of His Word. I quote the Word of God in prayer because it is Scriptural to do so. Also, it builds faith, for faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God, Romans 10:17.

    The prophets of Baal, 450, plus prophets of Asherah, 400, 1 Kings 18:19, were all killed by Elijah and the people with him, 1 Kings 18:40. Yet afterward Elijah was depressed, 1 Kings 19:4.

    God led him to eat and rest. This is wisdom.

    Hey, it's great to share the Word of God!
     
  15. IBLuke226

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    I agree that it is scriptural,
    also when Israel was under attack the kings would go to the temple and quote the Lord's promises and then got great victories in battle. A lot of those battles the musicians lead the army out for the battle singing psalms and praises to the Lord:)
     
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    Sometimes I think that if we could see the things that come against us it would probably scare us senseless! I don't think a lot of people including Christians really understand that there are things that are very real even though our physical eyes can't see them.
     
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    2 Chronicles 20:22, amen!

    Yes, this is true, I think it would frighten a lot of people.

    But here is a greater truth: Greater is He who is in us than He who is in the world, 1 John 4:4.

    I like this truth, too, that Jesus Christ is manifest to destroy the works of the devil, 1 John 3:8.

    One of us plus the Lord = VICTORY!!!
     
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    Amen! Those are good verses, Carl!
     
  20. Heart of a Seeker

    Heart of a Seeker Romans 8:28

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    Hi Precious Ones - I'm reading and praying and checking on here. Multi tasking...
     
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