Study group?

[Mahammad]

Yikes, fromy - you've scared me with that I-irab post I'm kinda in state of half-coma right now

Thanks for the scans, Becky! I'm going to study them after posting this. And your writing DOES look really cool - mine is atrocious...And how far are you in Arabic? I mean, speaking, reading...? I've re-learned the alphabet today *proud*

From what I know, Modern Standard Arabic is used mainly on TV and in print. People don't speak in MSA, they always use some kind of dialect. And by Shami I think fromy meant Levantine Arabic, right? Palestine, Israel, Jordan, etc area.

Just ignore the I-irab.

we in Arabic usually would say Arabic Fus'ha the difference between the old Arabic and the MSA is different vocabulary, but in your case it is better to learn MSA because it is the true Arabic and many people say that we should get rid of all the local dialects and speak Fus'ha once again in our normal life.

Yes shami is Levantine Arabic, we call that area bilad a-sham بلاد الشام

 

[Lindley]

Fromy, and can you distinguish between different dialects? To say that one phrase is, for example, Egyptian, and another Levantine? Are dialects similar?

 

[Mahammad]

Yeah I can distinguish them it's like different accents.

some dialects are very similar in a way and different in other way.

the only Arabs that I can't understand are Moroccans, half there words are French but I can understand them when they use Fus'ha

 

[Beckyy25]

If Fus'ha is MSA, then I think this is what I'm learning from those CDs I bought. I think this teacher does mention this at the beginning of the course, but I'm not sure anymore. I have to listen again to that part.

I want to learn the classical Arabic, because my goal is to read the Qur'an one day, and to converse with other Arabs is not so important for me (the thing is I have no Arabs to converse with ).

formy, which dialect do you speak in Saudi? And do you know which dialect Arabs in UAE speak?

 

[Mahammad]

If Fus'ha is MSA, then I think this is what I'm learning from those CDs I bought. I think this teacher does mention this at the beginning of the course, but I'm not sure anymore. I have to listen again to that part.

I want to learn the classical Arabic, because my goal is to read the Qur'an one day, and to converse with other Arabs is not so important for me (the thing is I have no Arabs to converse with ).

formy, which dialect do you speak in Saudi? And do you know which dialect Arabs in UAE speak?

i speak the Najdi even tho I lived my whole life in the east, but I'm originally from Najd (the middle).

Emirites have there own dialect, it's similar to Qatari but not the same.

 

[Lindley]

Yeah, I also want to learn the MSA. As for a dialect, I guess my choice would be either Levantine, Egyptian or Gulf Arabic...or all of them I think once you've learned the Standard, it won't be difficult to learn several dialects. The grammar is the hardest part, and it's mainly the same.

So, what's up with out next lesson? Or do we still have questions about this one?

 

[Beckyy25]

You can post a lesson from one of your books. I hope I will have enough time to learn everything.

 

[Lindley]

Okay. The first set of screens is about Past Tense.

The second one - how to say "where are you from" and "what's your name", plus some exercises to practice material from your dialogues, Becky.

Fromy, if you will be so kind as to give us these sentences in Arabic script, we'll be very grateful! MY book only gives them in transliteration

Is that enough of material? The next chapter covers "do you speak" phrases. I can post those as well, if you want. Or we can save them for my next turn

 

[Lindley]

Wow - those images turned out to be huge...Sorry, I'll shrink them next time

 

[Beckyy25]

You can post the next chapter too. But I have no idea when I will have time to learn everything.

Also formy would help us a lot if he writes the Arabic script for the above sentences.

 

[Mahammad]

what is your name?

in the book: إيش إسمك/إسمتش

إسمتش for a female in eastern gulf Areas (UAE, Qatar, Bahrain ،Kuwait and some parts of eastern Saudi)

in Fus'ha: ما إسمٌكََ(ma ismuka)

and for a female ما إسمُكِ (ma ismuki)



my name is Jack Smart

there's a mistake in this sentence it should be إسمي جاك سمارت (ismi Jack Smart) without ana/أنا



Where are you from?

book: إنتا/إنتي من وين؟

fus'ha: من أين أنت (min aina anta/anti) anti=talking to a female


Where is she/he from?

book: هوا من وين

fus'ha: من أين هو/هي (min aina hua/hya) hya=talking to a female


She is from Qatar:

book: هي من قطر

fus'ha: إنها من قطر (inha min Qatar) T=ط I hope you know how to pronounce ط



I am from America:

book: أنا من أمريكا

Fus'ha: same & إني من أمريكا (inee mn Amrika)



I'll do the rest tomorrow now I'm too tired and it's too late.

 

[ys2000]

Nice.