Starbucks strikes a major blow in the War on Christmas

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Hi,

I am sorry to have offended you. That was Nerd humor. I will refrain.

LOVE,

I don't even know what you were saying, and I feel like you kind of... yeah. I like tattoos. I see nothing wrong with them, even view them as a form of art when done right. I don't even know if you were being offensive or not but it caused me some anxiety trying to read what you wrote.
 
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I don't go there because I do like donuts.

I think each one has like five days' worth of calories.
I get a frap 3 or 4 times a year. So that's not an issue.
 
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I don't even know what you were saying, and I feel like you kind of... yeah. I like tattoos. I see nothing wrong with them, even view them as a form of art when done right. I don't even know if you were being offensive or not but it caused me some anxiety trying to read what you wrote.

Hi,

Yes, I should remember to not ever try to be funny. I really am sorry. Every once in a while I throw a joke out there. I pretty much have refrained and it seems that was the right thing to do.

In order to joke properly, I have to know the person really well, and I didn't know you well enough.

Normally, all my jokes are to make a person feel better. That was what I was trying to do with you. I messed up.

LOVE,
 
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Normally if I know it's a joke, and if it's written well enough for me to understand, then I don't mind. I didn't know if you were making fun of me or not, though. I guess I'm sorry if I made you feel bad since you do seem you were trying to actually just innocently joke, I suppose.

Most of my processing is visual, so when text is confusing, I get confused.
 
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Normally if I know it's a joke, and if it's written well enough for me to understand, then I don't mind. I didn't know if you were making fun of me or not, though. I guess I'm sorry if I made you feel bad since you do seem you were trying to actually just innocently joke, I suppose.

Most of my processing is visual, so when text is confusing, I get confused.

Hi,

I was not making fun of you. I try never to do that.

So, yes I take the blame for writing poorly. I thought the smiley faces would tell you that I was joking.

My humor is caught by few. It is extremely Nerdy, which to me is the way I am, and I take no offense in people calling me that. I have even used the words Nerd-Fest to try and let others in my work group handle the occasional lapses with other Nerds when they drop over and see me from time to time.

When that happened one day, I shocked my entire work crew, as I never let them know my science background. Normally I do not ask people to come to where I am at. I try and work where they are at, so after many years doing that at a place, one of the Engineers walked by my desk, and we swapped Richard Feynman stories as he is one of my favorite Physics guys, as he does not see a need to be confusing when teaching or working.

I eventually had to quit there, as no one even understood the depths of my contributions. Depth of contributions is normally missed, by Production types, and I have been warned, but never understood the problem, until I ran into it by working with and in production for awhile.

I am sorry.

LOVE
 
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Hi,

I was not making fun of you. I try never to do that.

So, yes I take the blame for writing poorly. I thought the smiley faces would tell you that I was joking.

My humor is caught by few. It is extremely Nerdy, which to me is the way I am, and I take no offense in people calling me that. I have even used the words Nerd-Fest to try and let others in my work group handle the occasional lapses with other Nerds when they drop over and see me from time to time.

When that happened one day, I shocked my entire work crew, as I never let them know my science background. Normally I do not ask people to come to where I am at. I try and work where they are at, so after many years doing that at a place, one of the Engineers walked by my desk, and we swapped Richard Feynman stories as he is one of my favorite Physics guys, as he does not see a need to be confusing when teaching or working.

I eventually had to quit there, as no one even understood the depths of my contributions. Depth of contributions is normally missed, by Production types, and I have been warned, but never understood the problem, until I ran into it by working with and in production for awhile.

I am sorry.

LOVE

Eh well... sorry for snapping at you I suppose. I guess I'm kinda tired too.
 
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Eh well... sorry for snapping at you I suppose. I guess I'm kinda tired too.

Hi,

Well we can both share in that, being tired. Yes, some of the time, I am writing way past my ability to stay awake.

It is in those tired moments, that I fear the most and think I might be making no sense at all. Yet, I keep on hoping that someone needs what I have to say.

Thanks for putting up with me. I will try to joke less. Once, I stopped all joking and teasing for months. I was asked to. When that happened, no one misunderstood me, as I did not make the mistake of Assuming. Assuming, they understood me completely when I also went into humor mode.

I was later asked to joke again, by my Boss again, as the job then was winding down.

Tired really gets to me some of the time. I am pleased that it has not caused me too much trouble, and hopefully not too much trouble for others also.

LOVE,
...Mary Katie., .... .
 
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I don't mind joking. It's just I'm autistic so I tend to take things literally, unless you make sure I know you're joking by saying "I'm joking, by the way". But then I might still not understand until further clarification is made. It's just how my brain works. I could snap less, however. I tend to do that a bit frequently.
 
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Its more about commercialism that religion. Multinationals like Starbucks dont care about religion one way or the other. What they do care about is their profits. So if it is deemed that taking Christmas out of the equations is more politically correct and appeals to the majority of their customers then that is what they will do based on a commercial decision. Starbucks also has some halal products to cater for any customers who are Muslims. Their stores in Indonesia are fully halal. So if more customers in the US wanted Halal products the Starbucks would cater to their requests if it meant that they will gain more customers and then more profits. So these big companies are anyone's for the taking and dont have any morals to stand on. They will sell themselves to the highest bidder.
 
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I don't mind joking. It's just I'm autistic so I tend to take things literally, unless you make sure I know you're joking by saying "I'm joking, by the way". But then I might still not understand until further clarification is made. It's just how my brain works. I could snap less, however. I tend to do that a bit frequently.

Hi,

I am not joking. Thanks. You actually have helped me, by your pain, which I am still sorry that I inflicted it on you.

This is how, before we get back to coffee, and Starbucks:

John, is a friend of mine. Dear Father Matt who has passed on, and he were good friends. They were golfing buddies, and I golf too because I loved my dad. I am not in love with golf. My dad was. So, occasionally I golf and it brings a tear to my eye, as I really miss him. He is gone also.

John and his two buddies, I see from time to time. John is on the Autistic Spectrum, which although it allows him to be better at some things than others, it has caused me some concern in our conversations. (I joke a lot where he works. It is when I drop in to see the other staff members. I only advise there on old personnel issues. I dont' really have anymore work there, but because it is a public place, occasionally I drop in to see staff, and sometimes talk.)

Knowing that it takes a long time for you to know a person is joking, is allowing me to handle every single one of our conversations, (He is really really nice too.), now, that I did not understand, before.

It is the time, I take with him, to make sure he knows, that he knows precisely with me, what my intentions are, and were, in some to many conversations, that makes it work perfectly between us.

John by the way was a school counselor in High School. He still works, he just doesn't get paid for it, and he has been donating his time for over 12 years. When he is at work, I cannot tell that he is not a paid employee. He is that dedicated and concentrating.

He also briefly held the rank of Captain in the Army, and he has the education and the credentials to teach also, if I am right.

Really thanks a lot.

LOVE,
 
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Its more about commercialism that religion. Multinationals like Starbucks dont care about religion one way or the other. What they do care about is their profits. So if it is deemed that taking Christmas out of the equations is more politically correct and appeals to the majority of their customers then that is what they will do based on a commercial decision. Starbucks also has some halal products to cater for any customers who are Muslims. Their stores in Indonesia are fully halal. So if more customers in the US wanted Halal products the Starbucks would cater to their requests if it meant that they will gain more customers and then more profits. So these big companies are anyone's for the taking and dont have any morals to stand on. They will sell themselves to the highest bidder.

I don't get why Starbucks or any other company is under any obligation to put Christian symbols on their cups. It's a red cup. That's a holiday color. They have a wide range of customers. We don't go to a coffee shop to buy a cup. We go to buy the coffee. And Starbucks has plenty of other packaging that directly mentions Christmas. But even if they didn't, they are not a Christian company.

Most Christians don't care about this non-controversy. It's discussed on forums and mentioned on blogs and in some media. Other than that, it's not really there except in the minds of a few.
 
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I don't get why Starbucks or any other company is under any obligation to put Christian symbols on their cups. It's a red cup. That's a holiday color. They have a wide range of customers. We don't go to a coffee shop to buy a cup. We go to buy the coffee. And Starbucks has plenty of other packaging that directly mentions Christmas. But even if they didn't, they are not a Christian company.

Most Christians don't care about this non-controversy. It's discussed on forums and mentioned on blogs and in some media. Other than that, it's not really there except in the minds of a few.
I notice this craziness mainly on here. It's spreading on Facebook too. I have a Christian aunt that used to, or still put Xmas on her Christmas card. But she's the first to complain about Christ being taken out. Probably because she watches to much Hannity and Riley.
 
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I notice this craziness mainly on here. It's spreading on Facebook too. I have a Christian aunt that used to, or still put Xmas on her Christmas card. But she's the first to complain about Christ being taken out. Probably because she watches to much Hannity and Riley.

Exactly. And it's not like we don't have real issues in the world to be concerned over. This is such a non-issue and it makes Christianity look silly.
 
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I notice this craziness mainly on here. It's spreading on Facebook too. I have a Christian aunt that used to, or still put Xmas on her Christmas card. But she's the first to complain about Christ being taken out. Probably because she watches to much Hannity and Riley.

That has to be it.. Fox (Faux) is keeping people stirred up and they are so good at doing that.
To my understanding the X in xmas stands for Christ in greek..? (don't know if true for sure)
And also to my understanding the former symbols on the infamous cup were winter icons and nothing related to Christianity anyway.
 
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That has to be it.. Fox (Faux) is keeping people stirred up and they are so good at doing that.
To my understanding the X in xmas stands for Christ in greek..? (don't know if true for sure)
And also to my understanding the former symbols on the infamous cup were winter icons and nothing related to Christianity anyway.
It is true. The X is part of the Greek meaning for Christ and should not be offensive to any Christian. They have been using this abbreviation for centuries and is no way disrespectful to the meaning of Christmas.
 
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That has to be it.. Fox (Faux) is keeping people stirred up and they are so good at doing that.
To my understanding the X in xmas stands for Christ in greek..? (don't know if true for sure)
And also to my understanding the former symbols on the infamous cup were winter icons and nothing related to Christianity anyway.

NOBODY in the Christian community is concerned about this cup. It's a super small issue that is being blown up by the media and discussion groups like this. And can you point out specifically where fox news is "stirring people up?"
 
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Its more about commercialism that religion. Multinationals like Starbucks dont care about religion one way or the other. What they do care about is their profits. So if it is deemed that taking Christmas out of the equations is more politically correct and appeals to the majority of their customers then that is what they will do based on a commercial decision. Starbucks also has some halal products to cater for any customers who are Muslims. Their stores in Indonesia are fully halal. So if more customers in the US wanted Halal products the Starbucks would cater to their requests if it meant that they will gain more customers and then more profits. So these big companies are anyone's for the taking and dont have any morals to stand on. They will sell themselves to the highest bidder.
But Starbucks isn't taking religion off their cups. Starbucks never had religion on their cups in the first place. Why does nobody get this?
 
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