Standby terminology if US Supreme Court says same sex is legal definition

[Interplanner]

[This didn't post, or I can't find it]

Does anyone have an alternate word for marriage if the US Supreme Court 'captures' it and says it must include same-sex couples? Ie, if they do, those concerned can destroy their "state" marriage certificates and enter into alternative ones validated by other communities, escaping the jurisdiction.

Some alternatives might be:
*to become one flesh (a bit subjective)
*to enter a monial bond. Matrimonial works so long as we are referring to biological mothers, not mothers through adoption. We wouldn't want trans-monial bonds.

 

[jayem]

I don't understand why terminology would be an issue.

And BTW, legal aspects of SSM should be discussed in the Politics Forum.

 

[Interplanner]

It is a legal solution. If I don't believe in SS marriage then I don't want to be under the jurisdiction of an institution that does. I already know many people who don't want to be in legal marriages as heterosexual couples because a family court can pulverize the man (usually), so they have sought out other terms and authorities.

 

[Reeniee]

We wouldn't want trans-monial bonds.

Why not?

 

[Desk trauma]

Just say no homo a lot.

 

[jayem]

It is a legal solution. If I don't believe in SS marriage then I don't want to be under the jurisdiction of an institution that does. I already know many people who don't want to be in legal marriages as heterosexual couples because a family court can pulverize the man (usually), so they have sought out other terms and authorities.

Well, the biological term for the mating behavior of (most) humans is pair-bonding. So you can just say you have a pair-bond. Not very elegant, but zoologically correct.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Regardless on what the court decides, it will not change or affect my marriage and I see no need rename my marriage to something else.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Maybe instead of matrimony, you could have a sanctimony.

 

[Albion]

Maybe instead of matrimony, you could have a sanctimony.

...or you could instead term the same sex unions approved by the government by some term other than the one the government and the media use.

 

[Cearbhall]

Does anyone have an alternate word for marriage if the US Supreme Court 'captures' it and says it must include same-sex couples? Ie, if they do, those concerned can destroy their "state" marriage certificates and enter into alternative ones validated by other communities, escaping the jurisdiction.

Some alternatives might be:
*to become one flesh (a bit subjective)
*to enter a monial bond. Matrimonial works so long as we are referring to biological mothers, not mothers through adoption. We wouldn't want trans-monial bonds.

Huh? It's not like legal marriage currently meets the requirements of religious marriage. They're already two different concepts that use the same term. Opposite-sex couples who marry through the state don't have to promise to obey church marriage requirements, either. You'd think you would be just as worried about sharing the term with an atheist opposite-sex couple who has an open marriage and refuses to have children.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It is a legal solution. If I don't believe in SS marriage then I don't want to be under the jurisdiction of an institution that does.

We can have you packed in a day, ready to move to anywhere in the world you'd like that doesn't recognize the terminology.

 

[ViaCrucis]

[This didn't post, or I can't find it]

Does anyone have an alternate word for marriage if the US Supreme Court 'captures' it and says it must include same-sex couples? Ie, if they do, those concerned can destroy their "state" marriage certificates and enter into alternative ones validated by other communities, escaping the jurisdiction.

Some alternatives might be:
*to become one flesh (a bit subjective)
*to enter a monial bond. Matrimonial works so long as we are referring to biological mothers, not mothers through adoption. We wouldn't want trans-monial bonds.

"Heteros for a more hateful tomorrow"?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Regardless on what the court decides, it will not change or affect my marriage and I see no need rename my marriage to something else.

No, you have to. Once them thar gays get married your marriage won't be special anymore. You'll have to get, like, super married now. It's like normal marriage but not as gay.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[TLK Valentine]

No, you have to. Once them thar gays get married your marriage won't be special anymore. You'll have to get, like, super married now. It's like normal marriage but not as gay.

-CryptoLutheran

It would seem that rights are things that some people think are only valuable not just if they have them, but if other people don't.

To which I ask: If other people getting married somehow lessens the value or meaning of your own marriage, why did you get married in the first place?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

No, you have to. Once them thar gays get married your marriage won't be special anymore. You'll have to get, like, super married now. It's like normal marriage but not as gay.

-CryptoLutheran

There already is a special word for Jewish marriage; the closest thing in English would be “Hell”. We just can’t run off to the drive thru chapel in Las Vegas and get married only to get a divorce six hours later like ya’ll Christians can. There is a big long contract that tells me what I have to do and is essentially indentured servitude. I knew I should have paid more attention in Aramaic class.



I jest with the above post. I’m happy, really I am. Honest. For reals.

 

[Interplanner]

re Via Crucis #12
It is not hate. It allows SS couples to use the word marry. But that act "hates" or violates MF marriage, and so another word is sought. If it was an act of hate, it would be out prosecuting SS couples for trying. The use of another term is to protect a belief which SS couples do not think is sacred, and are embarrassed to think that it is.

 

[Interplanner]

re not wanting 'trans-monial'
The reason MF marriage protectors would not want that term is the same as not wanting transgender practices. So long as matrimonial means a biological mother (and does not mean an adoptive mother in a SS marriage) we have the answer.

 

[Interplanner]

TLK Valentine,
I can't answer your question until I know if you know what an abomination is, in New Testament expression.

 

[Cearbhall]

The use of another term is to protect a belief which SS couples do not think is sacred, and are embarrassed to think that it is.

Hm, what? I'd say that most of them think that marriage is sacred. That's why they're fighting so hard for the opportunity to marry. They're no different from you. Many are Christian.

 

[CQmethodist]

re Via Crucis #12
It is not hate. It allows SS couples to use the word marry. But that act "hates" or violates MF marriage, and so another word is sought. If it was an act of hate, it would be out prosecuting SS couples for trying. The use of another term is to protect a belief which SS couples do not think is sacred, and are embarrassed to think that it is.

My marriage isn't an act of "hate" against mixed-sex couples' marriages, and I absolutely do think marriage is "sacred."