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Secular vs. Satanic

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by sccs, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. sccs

    sccs Newbie

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    Lately, I have heard a few people at my church call certain things of the world "satanic."

    I don't know how many of you have hard of Mark Driscoll, the pastor of Mars Hill church in Seattle, but I watched a video of him on YouTube calling yoga "satanic" because of its hindu origins.

    My question is: for you, what is the line between something that is secular vs. something that is satanic or demonic?

    In my opinion, yoga is not something to be classified as satanic but rather just secular. Secular things can be redeemed by God but Satanic things cannot.

    What are your thoughts? Examples would be appreciated too!
     
  2. Armistead14

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    To those very fundy anything of the world is almost satanic. Think about the apostle Paul speaking towards the eating of meat used in pagan worship, he told gentile christians that there was nothing wrong with eating the meat as long as they didn't partake of paganism, but also said the jews were right in not eating it because of their laws. Most fundy pastors can't seperate activity from beliefs, so they just call it satanic, very silly.
     
  3. Emmy

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    Dear Noblerare. God is Love, Satan flees from anything that is Love, and the world (Secular) is selfish first, then sometimes love in varying degrees, seldom selfless. I say this with love. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
     
  4. PaladinValer

    PaladinValer Orthodox Catholic in the English Style Supporter CF Ambassador

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    Secular isn't Satanic.

    My goodness Manicheanism is popular these days...

    ...and mind you, I'm referring to your (the OP) fellow parishioners, not you.

    The secular isn't the opposite of the sacred. The profane is.

    Yoga has been proven to have real health benefits. It is true that it is also a part of Sanatana Dharma ("Hinduism"), but practicing it in and of itself, without attaching any of the theology behind it (in other words, practicing it for its health and not using it religiously), is completely harmless and truly secular, as you have said.

    Your fellow parishioners are unfortunately not quite an enlightened as you. Do not fear practicing yoga. So long as you don't attach any Hindu belief to it and use it only as an exercise, then it is perfectly fine and you are absolutely not sinning. :)
     
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    Paul didn't have a problem with eating food sacrificed to idols.
     
  6. WinBySurrender

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    First, its "Manichaeism", and second, do you know what it is, as you are so fond of using the term?
     
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  7. Drax

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    LOL
     
  8. PaladinValer

    PaladinValer Orthodox Catholic in the English Style Supporter CF Ambassador

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    You've done that a lot whenever you've ever replied to my posts.

    Please, qualify it, or desist. Thank you for your time.
     
  9. Theofane

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    The word "Satanic" will loose all meaning if over-used.
     
  10. Theofane

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    How can there be no separation between Christian and Satanic? :confused:
     
  11. sccs

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    Thank you all for your responses.

    I was wondering, however, if you could define for me what you think is the line between calling something Satanic or secular?
     
  12. PaladinValer

    PaladinValer Orthodox Catholic in the English Style Supporter CF Ambassador

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    The secular is completely neutral; it has the potential to be used sacredly or profanely.

    The sacred is, by nature, holy. The profane is, by corruption, unholy.

    Using a pen is neutral. A pen used to write a defense of, say, the Holy Trinity against people who dismiss or rebut (God save those who do...) it is a sacred use of a pen. A profane use would be to stab someone with it.

    When it comes to things truly secular, it is how we use them that makes them good or bad.
     
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    Secularism is a foot soldier of satan.
    Yoga is not secular. But it is another food soldier of satan.
    I guess that should be clear enough.
     
  14. juvenissun

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    Secular is not neutral. It denies God.
     
  15. PaladinValer

    PaladinValer Orthodox Catholic in the English Style Supporter CF Ambassador

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    Manicheanism, not Christianity.
     
  16. WinBySurrender

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    And, once again, it's "Manichaeism", and yet again, do you know what it is, as you are so fond of using the term?
     
  17. PaladinValer

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    PaladinValer Orthodox Catholic in the English Style Supporter CF Ambassador

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    That's exactly my point to WinBySurrender, who is insisting I am spelling it wrong.
     
  20. Jase

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    Yoga is about breathing and stretching exercises. How on Earth can that be a foot soldier of Satan?

    Honestly, it sounds like God isn't very powerful, since all I hear on this board is how Satan controls absolutely everything.