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Correct. Why not? Because He has given mankind the ability to understand His promise of eternal life and the freedom to receive or reject His promise.It is odd that you see no tension between God wanting to save everyone and not everyone being saved.
God is glorified whether one receives or rejects His free gift. How does that work? When one receives His free gift, His perfect grace, mercy and love are demonstrated. When one rejects His free gift, His perfect justice is demonstrated.Does it glorify God to not get what he wants?
So, regardless of how people choose, His perfect attributes are demonstrated, which give Him glory.
I see it as very simple, really. What is in my view as stated above here that misses Scriptural truth?I'm not saying universalism is the best solution, only that the issue is complex.
The first sentence is basically what I just said. The second sentence doesn't make sense because everything that God does glorfies Himself.God is glorified in everything he does because everything he does is best. If anything God could possibly do would glorify him equally, that makes the statement that he is glorified, as well as all human action, meaningless.
The huge problem with universalism is that it makes God out to be a liar. How does that give Him any glory? He has already made clear promises about His free gift. Those who refuse His gift will be cast into the lake of fire, per Rev 20:15. If that doesn't happen, His Word is meaningless and He is a liar.Note that universalism leaves ample room for God to display his justice and ample punishment for sinners.
Is there any Scripture to back up this idea?An eon of hell is still a pretty big punishment, even if at the end of it everyone repents and is saved.
The bottom line is what Scripture actually says. And it says most of mankind will take the wide road to destruction. Matt 7I grant that many modern universalists err very much on the side of a warm fuzzy God rather than a great just one, but I do not see that error as being essential to universalism.
What verse or passage provides this idea?Still, I grant that the Scripture does not support universalism; there's one verse that does seem to against about three that appear pretty clearly to deny it. I believe Scripture indicates that between death and the final judgment there is opportunity to repent and be saved, but after the judgment those remaining unrepentant are dealt with in a way that combines destruction and eternal torment; exactly what that looks like we don't know.
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