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Rape: A Crime Some Women Deserve?

Discussion in 'Archived - Ethics & Morality' started by christalee4, Mar 29, 2006.

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  1. QuizzleDizzle

    QuizzleDizzle New Member

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    ^^^ oh do you think they're you know "those" types of people?
     
  2. Prophetable

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    Hrmmm funny that.... None of the links clearly state that sexual desire is not a component of rape. They just try to ignore the issue by focusing on other factors.

    Therefore your premise is completely inapplicable. :D

    Can you proove me wrong by quoting from one of these links?
     
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    Please forgive me for not being so luvy duvy, pooky wooky, goody goody goose bumps :)

    I prefer to speak the truth in love.
     
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    Rapes is always to hurt and hold power over someone; not just sometimes. Yes sexual attraction may play a part in it—but that is not always the case. Rape can happen because you’re not pretty and the rapist wants to belittle you.
     
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    How about proving yourself right by offering a source of your own? The onus is on you to prove your own case. One cannot prove non-existence. However, if indeed sexual desire were a key component of rape (which it is not), you should easily be able to provide a reputable source in agreement with you.

    So far, you've spouted a lot of opinion and provided absolutely nothing whatsoever to back said opinions up.
     
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    Given the barrage of negative remarks made within this thread regarding the intelligence of the posters who happen to disagree with your as of yet unsupported assertions, I'm failing to see this "love" you speak of.

    If, as you claim, you're "speaking the truth", then you should have no problem offering up some citations in support of your assertions.
     
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    Insulting people is good at times. Read the bible, it happened a bit :D

    If people are so dumb that they can't see that Sexual Desire factors in rape, then what else can one do but point it out so that others won't be led astray by their stupidity. Bestiality (Having Sex with animals) was considered punishable by death in the OT. Sometimes peoples Sexual Desire can get pretty twisted.

    Next you will be asking me for evidence to support the claim that breathing requires oxygen. That's the level that this is on. :wave:
     
  8. Catholicism

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    NO crime justifies another crime. No-one deserves rape.
     
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    Way to witness.

    Once again, though they speak a great deal about one's personal character, such insults do absolutely nothing to further or legitimate any of the arguments you've presented.

    What on earth does bestiality have to do with any of this?

    Once again, I note the complete and total absence of citations. Until evidence supporting the claim that sexual desire is a causative factor in rape is provided, it remains nothing more than an unsupported assertion of opinion.
     
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    Yup.

    (And breathing doesn't require oxygen) ;)
     
  11. Prophetable

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    The way to witness is by first receiving Holy Ghost power from on high. Something that I seriously doubt many people arguing with me on this thread have done. Because if they had they would have enough Baptism in the Holy Ghost to recognise the truth in what I'm saying.

    I've seen people come to Jesus after I've given them "insulting" words. When was the last time you led someone to Jesus? :)


    I don't care if you disklike my insults :)
    The Lord Jesus Christ would probably tell you guys to grow a brain as well!!
    If you're to stupid to understand commonsense I can't help you.



    Hey, apparently some people enjoy raping animals!!


    If a voice spoke from Heaven, you would still be asking for "statistics" I'm sure.:wave:
     
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    Also, when it comes to character, Atheists don't have any. They're boring, trivial people in General.
    But if they receive Jesus Christ, maybe they will become interesting and begin to utilise their full intellectual potential.
     
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    OK Stupid... :thumbsup: (there is your desired insult) let me make it plain. Rape is not about sexual intercourse... if it were all rapes would include penetration and orgasm... rapes may include weapons like sticks and bottles and knives and guns, they may be forced into anuses, mouthes or vaginas or directly into the uterus through the belly... they may include castration or other mutilations...
    If you want to argue that sexual desire is a part of rape keep howling at the moon. It is as pointless and stupid as arguing that cardiovascular exercise is the reason two drunks fight it out in a bar...


    Sexual desire and lust are two different things. Sexual desire does not lead to lust... lust is a desire to please oneself at the expense of another (irregardless of who or what the other is)... lust may lead to violence if the object is unwilling or unable to defend themselves... it isn't sexual desire that cause the rape, it is unfullfilled lust.

    A can lead to B, but B causes C.
    There are many factors that lead to B.
    Frustration at work or at home
    Money problems
    Low self esteem or sense of self loathing
    Sexual disfunction or confusion
    Not knowing the difference between sexual desire and lust...
     
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    If that is supposed to be a validation of your position, I think you just proved that heaven doesn't exist.
     
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    Thanks Moron :) (No doubt this thread will be closed soon).

    Now then, you've been smoking some bad weed again, haven't you KCDAD.

    We all know that some rapes may involve violent, non-penetration means.

    Be assured however that the ones that do actually involve Sexual intercourse, actually do involve Sexual Desire, believe it or not folks. I'm not into trivial arguments over the meanings of words either when it comes to LUST or SEXUAL DESIRE. Please stop being silly. You understand full well that the basis of my argument is can Provocative Dress contribute towards rape? I know that it can. All the oxymorons out there require statistics to fill them in on the obvious.
     
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    Well, yes, I confess...Pall Mall light 100s...

    Provocative dress? Back to that? Provocation is in the eye of the beholder... EVERY IDIOT (this is kinda fun;) )knows that. You may think seeing a little cleavage is provocative, I may think an ankle is. Joe may think high heels are, Bob gets turned on by red hair... Can't you see where this is going?

    Women don't provoke men... men do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap: :thumbsup: :amen: :doh:
     
  17. HeyJupiter

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    WHOA this thread has gotten LONG
     
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    Resorting to cattier insults continues to do absolutely nothing to further your claims. Nor does it divert any attention from the fact that such claims remain unsupported.

    If receiving Jesus Christ results in the behavior I've seen exhibited in this thread, then no thanks.. I'm not interested.
     
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    Irrelevant.

    Truth or "truthiness"? That is the question.

    Note the faith icon. I have no motivation or reason to attempt to lead anyone to Jesus. That said, I can't say I recall any scripture in which Jesus promotes ministry through ridicule. Perhaps you could provide a few verses and enlighten us all.

    Obviously not.

    Perhaps you could support this scripturally?

    If these assertions were so "common sense", they could easily be supported with fact through appropriate citations gleaned from reputable sources.

    Um.. okay. :scratch:

    Another attempt at diversion. Continued absence of citations noted.
     
  20. HeyJupiter

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    Date Rape Drugs are actaully NOT USUALLY used on DATES,

    Usually they are used at nightclubs/parties etc

    my rapist drugged me but i wasnt on a "date"
     
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