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Roman Catholic Confessions

James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of our Fathers, 88th ed., pp. 89.
“But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.”

Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd ed., p. 174.
“Question: Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
“Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her-she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.”

John Laux, A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies (1 936), vol. 1, P. 51. “Some theologians have held that God likewise directly determined the Sunday as the
day of worship in the New Law, that He Himself has explicitly substituted the Sunday for the Sabbath. But this theory is now entirely abandoned. It is now commonly held that God simply gave His Church the power to set aside whatever day or days she would deem suitable as Holy Days. The Church chose Sunday, the first day of the week, and in the course of time added other days as holy days.”

Daniel Ferres, ed., Manual of Christian Doctrine (1916), p.67.
“Question: How prove you that the Church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
“Answer. By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of, and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same Church.’

James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore (1877-1921), in a signed letter. “Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day -Saturday – for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes . Did Christ change the day’? I answer no!
“Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons”

The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893. “The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday.”
Catholic Virginian Oct. 3, 1947, p. 9, art. “To Tell You the Truth.”

“For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday.We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the[Roman Catholic] church outside the Bible.”
Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957), p. 50.

“Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
“Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.
“Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
“Answer.We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.”
Martin J. Scott, Things Catholics AreAsked About (1927),p. 136.

“Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that worship should be changed from Saturday to Sunday …. Now the Church … instituted, by God’s authority, Sunday as the day of worship. This same Church, by the same divine authority, taught the doctrine of Purgatory long before the Bible was made.We have, therefore, the same authority for Purgatory as we have for Sunday.”
Peter R. Kraemer, Catholic Church Extension Society (1975),Chicago, Illinois.

“Regarding the change from the observance of the Jewish Sabbath to the Christian Sunday, I wish to draw your attention to the facts:

1. That Protestants, who accept the Bible as the only rule of faith and religion, should by all means go back to the observance of the Sabbath. The fact that they do not, but on the contrary observe the Sunday, stultifies them in the eyes of every thinking man.
2. We Catholics do not accept the Bible as the only rule of faith. Besides the Bible we have the living Church, the authority of the Church, as a rule to guide us. We say, this Church, instituted by Christ to teach and guide man through life, has the right to change the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament and hence, we accept her change of the Sabbath to Sunday.We frankly say, yes, the Church made this change, made this law, as she mademany other laws, for instance, the Friday abstinence, the unmarried priesthood, the laws concerning mixed marriages, the regulation of Catholic marriages and a thousand other laws.

“It is always somewhat laughable, to see the Protestant churches, in pulpit and legislation, demand the observance of Sunday, of which thereis nothing in their Bible.”

Protestant Confessions

Protestant theologians and preachers from a wide spectrum of denominations have been quite candid in admitting that there is no Biblical authority for obse rving Sunday as a sabbath.
Anglican/Episcopal
Isaac Williams, Plain Sermons on the Catechism , vol. 1, pp.334, 336.
“And where are we told in the Scriptures that we are to keep the first day at all? We are commanded to keep the seventh; but we are nowhere commanded to keep the first day …. The reason why we keep the first day of the week holy instead of the seventh is for the same reason that we observe many other things, not because the Bible, but because the church has enjoined it.”

Canon Eyton, The Ten Commandments , pp. 52, 63, 65.
“There is no word, no hint, in the New Testament about abstaining from work on Sunday …. into the rest of Sunday no divine law enters…. The observance of Ash Wednesday or Lent stands exactly on the same footing as the observance of Sunday.”

Bishop Seymour,Why We Keep Sunday.
We have made the change from the seventh day to the first day, from Saturday to Sunday, on the authority of the one holy Catholic Church.”

Baptist

Dr. Edward T. Hiscox, a paper read before a New York ministers’ conference, Nov. 13, 1893, reported in New York Examiner , Nov.16, 1893.
“There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week…Where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament absolutely not.

“To me it seems unaccountable that Jesus, during three years’ intercourse with His disciples, often conversing with them upon the Sabbath question . . . never alluded to any transference of the day; also, that during forty days of His resurrection life, no such thing was intimated.

“Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history…But what a pity it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of the sun god, adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and
bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!”
William Owen Carver, The Lord’s Day in Our Day , p. 49.

“There was never any formal or authoritative change from the Jewish seventh-day Sabbath to the Christian first-day observance.”

Congregationalist

Dr. R. W. Dale, The Ten Commandments (New York: Eaton &Mains), p. 127-129.
” . . . it is quite clear that however rigidly or devotedly we may spend Sunday, we are not keeping the Sabbath – . . ‘Me Sabbath was founded on a specific Divine command.We can plead no such command for the obligation to observe Sunday …. There is not a
single sentence in the New Testament to suggest that we incur any penalty by violatingthe supposed sanctity of Sunday.”

Timothy Dwight, Theology: Explained and Defended (1823), Ser. 107, vol. 3, p.258.
” . . . the Christian Sabbath [Sunday] is not in the Scriptures, and was not by the primitive Church called the Sabbath.”

Disciples of Christ

Alexander Campbell, The Christian Baptist, Feb. 2, 1824,vol. 1. no. 7, p. 164.
“‘But,’ say some, ‘it was changed from the seventh to the first day.’ Where? when?and by whom? No man can tell. No; it never was changed, nor could it be, unless creationwas to be gone through again: for the reason assigned must be changed before the observance, or respect to the reason, can be changed! It is all old wives’ fables to talk of the change of the Sabbath from the seventh to the first day. If it be changed, it was that august personage changed it who changes times and laws ex officio – I think his name is Doctor Antichrist.’

First Day Observance , pp. 17, 19.
“The first day of the week is commonly called the Sabbath. This is a mistake. The Sabbath of the Bible was the day just preceding the first day of the week. The first day of the week is never called the Sabbath anywhere in the entire Scriptures. It is also an error to talk about the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. There is not in any place in the Bible any intimation of such a change.”

Lutheran

The Sunday Problem , a study book of the United Lutheran Church (1923), p. 36.
“We have seen how gradually the impression of the Jewish sabbath faded from the mind of the Christian Church, and how completely the newer thought underlying the observance of the first day took possession of the church.We have seen that the
Christians of the first three centuries never confused one with the other, but for a time celebrated both.”

Augsburg Confession of Faith art. 28; written by Melanchthon, approved by Martin Luther, 1530; as published in The Book of Concord of the Evangelical Lutheran Church Henry Jacobs, ed. (1 91 1), p. 63.
“They [Roman Catholics] refer to the Sabbath Day, a shaving been changed into the Lord’s Day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it seems. Neither is there any example whereof they make more than concerning the changing of the Sabbath Day. Great, say
they, is the power of the Church, since it has dispensed with one of the Ten Commandments!”

Dr. Augustus Neander, The History of the Christian Religion and Church HenryJohn Rose, tr. (1843), p. 186.
“The festival of Sunday, like all other festivals, was always only a human ordinance, and it was far from the intentions of the apostles to establish a Divine command in this respect, far from them, and from the early apostolic Church, to transfer
the laws of the Sabbath to Sunday.”

John Theodore Mueller, Sabbath or Sunday , pp. 15, 16.
“But they err in teaching that Sunday has taken the place of the Old Testament Sabbath and therefore must be kept as the seventh day had to be kept by the children of Israel …. These churches err in their teaching, for Scripture has in no way ordained the first day of the week in place of the Sabbath. There is simply no law in the New Testament to that effect.”

Methodist

Harris Franklin Rall, Christian Advocate, July 2, 1942, p.26.
“Take the matter of Sunday. There are indications in the New Testament as to how the church came to keep the first day of the week as its day of worship, but there is no passage telling Christians to keep that day, or to transfer the Jewish Sabbath to that day.”

John Wesley, TheWorks of the Rev. John Wesley, A.M., John Emory, ed. (NewYork: Eaton & Mains), Sermon 25,vol. 1, p. 221.
“But, the moral law contained in the ten commandments, and enforced by the prophets, he [Christ] did not take away. It was not the design of his coming to revoke any part of this. This is a law which never can be broken …. Every part of this law must
remain in force upon all mankind, and in all ages; as not depending either on time or place, or any other circumstances liable to change, but on the nature of God and the nature of man, and their unchangeable relation to each other.”

Dwight L. Moody D. L. Moody,Weighed andWanting (Fleming H. Revell Co.: New York), pp. 47, 48.
The Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since. This fourth commandment begins with the word ‘remember,’ showing that the Sabbath already existed when GodWrote the law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?”

Presbyterian

T. C. Blake, D.D., Theology Condensed, pp.474, 475.
“The Sabbath is a part of the decalogue – the Ten Commandments. This alone forever settles the question as to the perpetuity of the institution . . . . Until, therefore, it
can be shown that the whole moral law has been repealed, the Sabbath will stand . . . .The teaching of Christ confirms the perpetuity of the Sabbath.” AND finally,What does Scripture really say?
 
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Jesus celebrated the most important form of worship, the Eucharist which He commanded them to celebrate at the Last Supper, on a Sunday (Luke 24:1, 30). The Church certainly has merit in establishing this tradition, whether or not is explicit in Scripture (a false criteria anyway). Jesus set the precedent for this a number of times in which He "violated" Sabbath rules of the OT (eg. John 5:16)
 
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Jesus celebrated the most important form of worship, the Eucharist which He commanded them to celebrate at the Last Supper, on a Sunday (Luke 24:1, 30). The Church certainly has merit in establishing this tradition, whether or not is explicit in Scripture (a false criteria anyway). Jesus set the precedent for this a number of times in which He "violated" Sabbath rules of the OT (eg. John 5:16)

Where did a lawless jesus break the sabbath? I cant find it anywhere in my bibles. Do you have a "Message" bible or something?
 
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Sunday is the first and eighth day. It has nothing to do with the seventh day Sabbath. It has nothing to do with resurrection falsely claimed on Sunday morning.

This is what it has to do with:

Lev. 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.

Jn. 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first [day] of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you.

Jn. 20:26 And after eight days again (counting inclusively is Sunday to Sunday) his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace [be] unto you.
 
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I am a hiereus. I do not need to follow ritual/holiness laws or a Levitical hierarchy to get to God. Jesus is my Great High Hiereus and I am a junior hiereus myself.

Saturday out; Grace in!
And we belong to the Jerusalem Above :thumbsup:

Hierousalem (Strong's 2419) occurs 83 times in 80 verses:
ierou-salhm <2419> #2411 #4532 ["Priest of Peace"]

Hebrews 7:1 For this the Melchisedek, King of Salem/salhm <4532>, Priest/iereuV <2409>of the God of the Most High/uyistou <5310>, the together-joining Abraham turning-back from the smiting of the kings, and did bless him

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/priest/RP24.htm

One of the most intriguing descriptions of the unique character of the High Priesthood of Jesus is found in Heb. 7:17 wherein it is stated, "Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." This one grand statement shows that Jesus is not like any of the other priests who the people of Israel knew so much about. The entire seventh chapter of Hebrews is about THE MELCHIZEDEK CONNECTION,
 
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Jesus celebrated the most important form of worship, the Eucharist which He commanded them to celebrate at the Last Supper, on a Sunday (Luke 24:1, 30). The Church certainly has merit in establishing this tradition, whether or not is explicit in Scripture (a false criteria anyway). Jesus set the precedent for this a number of times in which He "violated" Sabbath rules of the OT (eg. John 5:16)

Ok...

1st) Jesus did not celebrate communion on a sunday. That verse you used, about the women bringing spices to the tomb, is in reference to them wanting to anoint the body of Christ. When Jesus broke bread with His disciples and drank the wine (grape juice) there were no spices involved.

2nd)The church has zero merit in establishing anything outside of the bible, that which they is contrary to the written word of God.

3rd) A false Criteria? So what do you take this verse to mean: To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isa 8:20

4th)Jesus never violated the sabbath. What He did do was take the useless laws that man applied to His day and put them where they belonged, in the trash. The bible says that Jesus lived a life without sin. Had He violated the sabbath than that would have meant that He had sinned. Your argument here is flawed

5th) You're not addressing the OP. The Catholic church clearly states that they are the reason why the change from Sabbath to Sunday came around. So the point is either you're going by the bible, or you're going by the word of man. Which will it be?
 
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I am a hiereus. I do not need to follow ritual/holiness laws or a Levitical hierarchy to get to God. Jesus is my Great High Hiereus and I am a junior hiereus myself.

Saturday out; Grace in!

What's ritual about the 4th commandment sabbath? I mean unless you're talking about ritual as in its literal definition. Because all of us follow a ritual of going to church, so I doubt that's what you mean.

Another thing to consider is that the 4th commandment sabbath was given and commanded to be honored before the Levitical system was in place. So how can that law be associated with the levitcal system if it preceded it.

Saturday out; Grace in? That's like saying ten commandments out; grace in, but than you wouldn't need grace without the commandments so where does that leave you?
 
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Sunday is the first and eighth day. It has nothing to do with the seventh day Sabbath. It has nothing to do with resurrection falsely claimed on Sunday morning.

This is what it has to do with:

Lev. 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.

Jn. 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first [day] of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you.

Jn. 20:26 And after eight days again (counting inclusively is Sunday to Sunday) his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace [be] unto you.

And all this time I thought the 4th commandment had to do with worship.

None of the verses you provide say to worship on Sunday. If you stick with what the bible says, and refrain from implying meaning that isn't meant to be implied than you find yourself without excuse as to why you don't honor the sabbath as we have been commanded to do.
 
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D. L. Moody on the Sabbath
"I believe that the Sabbath question today is a vital one for the whole country. It is the burning question of the present time. If you give up the Sabbath the church goes; if you give up the church the home goes; and if the home goes the nation goes. That is the direction in which we are traveling."

Webster's 1828:

SABBATH-BREAKER, n. One who profanes the sabbath by violating the laws of God or man which enjoin the religious observance of that day.

SUN'DAY, n. The christian sabbath; the first day of the week, a day consecrated to rest from secular employments, and to religious worship. It is called also the Lord's day. Many pious persons however discard the use of Sunday, and call the day the sabbath.
 
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Which of the 10 Commandments did Jesus quote when he told of them?

Very important stuff! A lot of Judaizers miss this crucial point and every time I've asked, they've never responded. Is it that damaging?

And in terms of the law, Jesus summed it up: Love your God and Love your neighbor. That's all I need to worry about.
 
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Which of the 10 Commandments did Jesus quote when he told of them?

Very important stuff! A lot of Judaizers miss this crucial point and every time I've asked, they've never responded. Is it that damaging?

And in terms of the law, Jesus summed it up: Love your God and Love your neighbor. That's all I need to worry about.

A summary of something does not make the full contents invaluable or neglectable. In fact, it helps you understand the full contents better.
 
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Jesus did not turn to scribes to speak.

What is important to understand about the sabbath is the real sabbath, the thousand years. Of that the Law truly speaks.

Not of a single day, but of the Day, a thousand years.

The true sabbath is not the thousand years. The true sabbath is the sabbath that Christ established on the 7th day of creation. The day is the real sabbath. That is what the law speaks of. One need not over complicate the day.
 
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Which of the 10 Commandments did Jesus quote when he told of them?

Very important stuff! A lot of Judaizers miss this crucial point and every time I've asked, they've never responded. Is it that damaging?

And in terms of the law, Jesus summed it up: Love your God and Love your neighbor. That's all I need to worry about.

Why would Jesus need to repeat to Jews that they ought to keep the sabbath when they were already doing that? He needed to break the yoke they placed on the sabbath.

Example:

I teach Bob to cross the street and tell him to look both ways first before crossing.

Sometime later, after I've been gone for awhile, Professional Street Crossers tell Bob that he is doing it wrong. He must not only look both ways, but hop on one foot, clap his hands above his head and spin in a circle five times once he gets to the other side. Suffice it to say, eventually crossing the street will become a burden and Bob will probably just stop crossing it.

When I return and see Bob, he is glad that I'm back. We approach a street and as we begin to cross he starts to hop on one foot, clap his hands above his head, and than spin around five times once we get to the other side. I look at Bob and say "What was all of that?" I take him by the hand and together we both walk back across the street. No hopping, no clapping, we just walk.

When we get to the other side, the professional street crossers are furious. They accuse me and Bob of not walking across the street the right way.But Bob trusts me. He knows that the original way I taught him to walk across the street is the way he is suppose to walk. No need to be taught a second time, he just needed a reminder, a refresher course if you will, of how to walk.

Christ didn't need to repeat the commandment. Instead He lived it. He showed the right way to keep the sabbath by His actions, which was much more effective than reiterating the command.

Lastly, the summation of the commandments was first stated in Deut. Christ simply quoted to them what they had been taught already but forgot.
 
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Why would Jesus need to repeat to Jews that they ought to keep the sabbath when they were already doing that? He needed to break the yoke they placed on the sabbath.

Example:

I teach Bob to cross the street and tell him to look both ways first before crossing.

Sometime later, after I've been gone for awhile, Professional Street Crossers tell Bob that he is doing it wrong. He must not only look both ways, but hop on one foot, clap his hands above his head and spin in a circle five times once he gets to the other side. Suffice it to say, eventually crossing the street will become a burden and Bob will probably just stop crossing it.

When I return and see Bob, he is glad that I'm back. We approach a street and as we begin to cross he starts to hop on one foot, clap his hands above his head, and than spin around five times once we get to the other side. I look at Bob and say "What was all of that?" I take him by the hand and together we both walk back across the street. No hopping, no clapping, we just walk.

When we get to the other side, the professional street crossers are furious. They accuse me and Bob of not walking across the street the right way.But Bob trusts me. He knows that the original way I taught him to walk across the street is the way he is suppose to walk. No need to be taught a second time, he just needed a reminder, a refresher course if you will, of how to walk.

Christ didn't need to repeat the commandment. Instead He lived it. He showed the right way to keep the sabbath by His actions, which was much more effective than reiterating the command.

Lastly, the summation of the commandments was first stated in Deut. Christ simply quoted to them what they had been taught already but forgot.

Again, no one answers my question! Stop beating around the bush and answer!
 
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