PROOF POSITIVE The Iraq War Was For The Oil!

[SackLunch]

It wasn't for the WMDs, we know that now. It wasn't because Saddam was just a mean 'ol dictator, there's lots of them in the world. It wasn't for the terrorism, for the 9/11 Commission had already established that Iraq had no ties to international terrorism before the war. So what was it then?

I wonder if this was written into that secret energy policy Cheney successfully avoided disclosing a year or two ago (remember, Cheney was previously CEO of the Halliburton energy company which has recieved many non-compete contracts and has overcharged the Government on many occassions). And of course Bush owned Harken Energy and in fact cashed in on some insider trading but never got convicted.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/06/business/worldbusiness/06saudi.html?pagewanted=print

August 6, 2005
Why America Is More Dependent Than Ever on Saudi Arabia
By JAD MOUAWAD

Among the fringe benefits of removing Saddam Hussein from power, went the thinking in the United States at the time, would be a rapid recovery of that country's oil production. In some hawkish circles in Washington, it was thought that a free Iraq would eventually undercut OPEC's power and marginalize Saudi Arabia...and provided more fodder to the theory that American troops went into Iraq to break OPEC's back, weaken the Saud dynasty and reduce the kingdom's oil-based influence.
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[Inconel]

B..b..but, I thought Bush was in league with the Saudis? You know, Farhrenheit 911 and all that stuff? All the conspiracy theories are just too complicated for me.

 

[Cerberus~]

If the war was for oil, why is it at record prices?

 

[Dworkin]

What makes you think they would want the prices would go down? If you own oil - the more expensive it is, the more money you make.

 

[Gunny]

PROOF POSITIVE The Iraq War Was For The Oil!


LOL!!!

 

[White Horse]

In the first place, if the war were about oil, why are prices at record highs in the US? In the 2nd place, we get little of our oil from OPEC nations. In the 3rd place, so what if it was? Oil is money, money is power, and an idiot like Hussein is the last person in the world who needs that much power.

 

[armyman_83]

It should be.....lol I mean we took over their country, lets just be imperialistic if were are going to dabble in world affairs, or just stay out all together.

 

[SackLunch]

In the first place, if the war were about oil, why are prices at record highs in the US? In the 2nd place, we get little of our oil from OPEC nations. In the 3rd place, so what if it was? Oil is money, money is power, and an idiot like Hussein is the last person in the world who needs that much power.

It's because Bush is an oil man. Cheney is an oil man. These men are all connected to the Saudi Royals. Bush 1 also has strong ties to the Saudi family. The more expensive oil is, the richer these guys get off the profits.

Saudi Arabia is our primary source of oil. Without them our economy would crash.

So what if this war WAS all about the oil, you ask? Do you know what you're asking? Do you care about our country at all? Are you in the least bit concerned that President Bush lied to the American people and to the Congress about the reasons for going to war? And used our troops not to protect our country, but to secure his oil profits? You should be. This is OUR country! We NEED to be concerned!

I can't say it nearly as well as Michael Moore in Fahrenheit 9/11 though. Watch the DVD from your local library free for one week- it explains everything.

 

[Ginny]

Hey, Sack- maybe you can protest by not driving anywhere or purchasing gas!

 

[revolutio]

You'd think if they put so much time into this scheme that we would actually have cheaper gas...

 

[Chosen One]

It doesn't matter WHERE our oil comes from- it is a matter of how much is in the world supply. If we get all of our oil from Venezula- it doesn't mean a thing- because they charge market price. They are just as happy to sell it to the Chinese if they are willing to pay more for it.

It is also a question of how it is priced. Saddam was pricing his oil in Euros. Venezula tallkes about doing the same. If this becomes a trend, it is the end of the printing of deficit dollars. The US people and its government will have to start spending within their means- it means the end of US dominance.

 

[Gunny]

Hey, Sack- maybe you can protest by not driving anywhere or purchasing gas!

OUTSTANDING IDEA, LOL!!!

 

[SackLunch]

OUTSTANDING IDEA, LOL!!!

That doesn't make any sense though. It's just another diversion from the fact that we have a criminal running the country. And some people would rather make jokes than to face that fact.

 

[Fineous_Reese]

proposition 1) we get most of our oil from the sauds

proposition 2) bush et all are in league with the sauds

proposition 3) article states bush took us to iraq for oil to 'break the back' of opec and marginalize the sauds

would someone care to explain how these three items work together in a logical manner that conforms to reality? (the problem being that they aren't all true so any logic used will still fail to conform to reality...kinda like this OP sorry sacklunch)

 

[Loukuss]

While I agree with some of what you say, SackedLunch, you gotta stop going on and on about F 9/11. I know you feel its a great movie, but most people cant see past MM's propaganda. I, myself, liked the movie, but mainly because he wasnt afraid to paint BUsh as the idiot he really is.

Oil is a major reason why the US went to war. If the US can control oil prices, they can grab a hold of the international economy that seems to be slipping through their hands. The US isnt the economic power that it was after the second World War. Military spending is ridiculous at this point in time. All US taxpayers are paying for this war, leaving not much for social programs and other things. Exporting jobs isnt helping either. The US has exported so many jobs to china and other asian countries, that if a recesssion were to hit the States, they wouldnt be able to work and spend their way out, like they've done in the past.
But I dont think that the powers that be really care that much about America's economy, and if it crashes or not. They are more concerned with making lots of money, and black gold is their best friend.

 

[Grizzly]

In the first place, if the war were about oil, why are prices at record highs in the US? In the 2nd place, we get little of our oil from OPEC nations. In the 3rd place, so what if it was? Oil is money, money is power, and an idiot like Hussein is the last person in the world who needs that much power.

So what if it was? You can't really mean that...

 

[Jonathan David]

It strikes me as interesting that there are so many people that believe that the government works in the best interest of the average American (ie. that gas prices would go down). I thought that, in a country founded on cynicism of government, there would be more.... well.... cynicism... or at leats skepticism

 

[Scholar in training]

In some hawkish circles in Washington, it was thought that a free Iraq would eventually undercut OPEC's power and marginalize Saudi Arabia...and provided more fodder to the theory that American troops went into Iraq to break OPEC's back, weaken the Saud dynasty and reduce the kingdom's oil-based influence.
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Wow, and aren't many liberals decrying Bush for being hypocritical in not going after our oil-rich, civil liberties-violating buddies overseas? And when he beings to do so by slowing cutting their influence over oil, there's still another problem with Bush's actions?

 

[Inconel]

Wow, and aren't many liberals decrying Bush for being hypocritical in not going after our oil-rich, civil liberties-violating buddies overseas? And when he beings to do so by slowing cutting their influence over oil, there's still another problem with Bush's actions?

Haven't you heard? Bush is Diablo-Incarnate. Everything he does, at any given time, is evil, at that same instant of time.

 

[jamesrwright3]

It's because Bush is an oil man. Cheney is an oil man. These men are all connected to the Saudi Royals. Bush 1 also has strong ties to the Saudi family. The more expensive oil is, the richer these guys get off the profits.

Saudi Arabia is our primary source of oil. Without them our economy would crash.

So what if this war WAS all about the oil, you ask? Do you know what you're asking? Do you care about our country at all? Are you in the least bit concerned that President Bush lied to the American people and to the Congress about the reasons for going to war? And used our troops not to protect our country, but to secure his oil profits? You should be. This is OUR country! We NEED to be concerned!

I can't say it nearly as well as Michael Moore in Fahrenheit 9/11 though. Watch the DVD from your local library free for one week- it explains everything.

Nobody lied. The reasons we went to war were the truth. Michael Moore is nothing but a blowhard for the extreme left wing.

You should watch Fahrenhype 09/11 by Dick Morris. It is a much closer version to the truth and totally destroys Moore's movie with the truth. EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT during this decade was in bed with the Saudis we didn't have much of a choice..they were the primary supplier of oil

You are claiming the Bush's are in bed with the Saudis to the umteenth degree, but according to you, the Iraq was designed to undercut the Saudis.

Maybe there was at least a fleeting thought that we could purchase oil from Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia..that would actually be a good thing..it would be a win win situation for Iraq and for the US. We would stop sending our dollars to the Saudis which support Wahabbism (radical Islam) and send our dollars instead to a liberal democracy in the Middle East and hopefully cut off some of the funds available to terrorist..I am not even saying that's the case, but if that was one of a multitude of reasons, I would say it is a smart move

We didn't go to war for oil..simply a lie. Everyone thought he had WMD, including Bill Clinton who signed our Iraqi Regime change policy into law and every single major intelligence agency. If Saddam didn't have them. he sure acted like he did.