Police shooting victims show police are sexist

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While only 37% of those killed by police are black, a whopping 94% are men. It's time to start a Male Lives Matter campaign to highlight sexism among the police. We cannot sit idly by and allow our police officers to kill unarmed men. Why aren't men outraged and protesting all these men being killed by police?

I was glad to see Mike Huckabee noticed this too:

Former GOP presidential candidate and Trump supporter Mike Huckabee said that the “real movement in America should be ‘Male Lives Matter.’”

Huckabee had said in an interview on Fox that in 2015 more white people were killed by police officers than black people. He cited findings by the Washington Post, which found that “of the 990 people shot in 2015, 948 people were male, 494 were white and 258 were black.”

Source: Capital Zero "Mike Huckabee Urges Nation to Focus On What Matters: ‘Male Lives Matter’", July 11, 2016
 
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While only 37% of those killed by police are black, a whopping 94% are men. It's time to start a Male Lives Matter campaign to highlight sexism among the police. We cannot sit idly by and allow our police officers to kill unarmed men. Why aren't men outraged and protesting all these men being killed by police?

I was glad to see Mike Huckabee noticed this too:

If blacks are a minority in the US (13%) , but 37% of those killed by police are black, that means blacks are killed at a disproportionately higher rate than any other group. So your qualifier "only" is misleading.
 
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If blacks are a minority in the US (13%) , but 37% of those killed by police are black, that means blacks are killed at a disproportionately higher rate than any other group. So your qualifier "only" is misleading.

What you are missing is that they commit just over 1/2 of all violent crimes, so they have more than 1/2 of the dealings with police, which means that they should be (statistically speaking) shot and killed at the same rate as other races, and they ARE. Which is why BLM has gone off halfcocked. They have ignored the math. There is no truth to blacks being killed (at a higher rate) because of racist police.

Edited to add: Blacks also resist arrest at a greater rate than whites and hispanics, which increases their odds of getting shot.
 
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What you are missing is that they commit just over 1/2 of all violent crimes, so they have more than 1/2 of the dealings with police, which means that they should be (statistically speaking) shot and killed at the same rate as other races, and they ARE. Which is why BLM has gone off halfcocked. They have ignored the math. There is no truth to blacks being killed (at a higher rate) because of racist police.
How's the statistic for women in violent crimes? You know, the actual subject of the thread.
 
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Does the police have quotas to fulfill? If not, then the breakdown of the number of men, women, whites and blacks they shoot is fairly irrelevant. The question is rather, whether or not the shootings are unavoidable. Your society has a problem when police officers are gunning down citizens for no good reason. And if the citizens who are shot for no good reason overwhelmingly belong to a specific group, then that's worth looking into as well. Dragging those general statistics into it is obfuscation. They tell us nothing of value.
 
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Does the police have quotas to fulfill? If not, then the breakdown of the number of men, women, whites and blacks they shoot is fairly irrelevant. The question is rather, whether or not the shootings are unavoidable. Your society has a problem when police officers are gunning down citizens for no good reason. And if the citizens who are shot for no good reason overwhelmingly belong to a specific group, then that's worth looking into as well. Dragging those general statistics into it is obfuscation. They tell us nothing of value.
Almost never does a police officer shoot someone "for no good reason". There's almost always a good reason.
 
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Almost never does a police officer shoot someone "for no good reason". There's almost always a good reason.
Let's say that there is almost always something that the police officer perceives as a good reason.
 
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While only 37% of those killed by police are black, a whopping 94% are men. It's time to start a Male Lives Matter campaign to highlight sexism among the police. We cannot sit idly by and allow our police officers to kill unarmed men. Why aren't men outraged and protesting all these men being killed by police?

We should use a quota system and stop letting the ladies off so easy.
Perhaps they don't punch police in the face as much?
Let's not let that slow the trigger anymore.
Let's check and make sure all groups are
treated the same and each makes quota.
 
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We should use a quota system and stop letting the ladies off so easy.
Perhaps they don't punch police in the face as much?
Let's not let that slow the trigger anymore.
Let's check and make sure all groups are
treated the same and each makes quota.

Well there is a sentencing gap in some western countries (US and UK definitely). But "equality" activists are only interested in fair representation in *certain* meritocracies ^_^
 
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Does the police have quotas to fulfill? If not, then the breakdown of the number of men, women, whites and blacks they shoot is fairly irrelevant. The question is rather, whether or not the shootings are unavoidable. Your society has a problem when police officers are gunning down citizens for no good reason. And if the citizens who are shot for no good reason overwhelmingly belong to a specific group, then that's worth looking into as well. Dragging those general statistics into it is obfuscation. They tell us nothing of value.

tl;dr version

"Your stats are irrelevant, unlike mine! Nyer!"
 
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Does the police have quotas to fulfill? If not, then the breakdown of the number of men, women, whites and blacks they shoot is fairly irrelevant. The question is rather, whether or not the shootings are unavoidable. Your society has a problem when police officers are gunning down citizens for no good reason. And if the citizens who are shot for no good reason overwhelmingly belong to a specific group, then that's worth looking into as well. Dragging those general statistics into it is obfuscation. They tell us nothing of value.

It is agreed then that we establish a quota system so women get shot more.
I'm imagining that asian women are far under quota.
I've heard that native americans are over quota, so we can back off on them.
 
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Now watch how 'but men commit more crimes' is accepted as a perfectly reasonable counter to these stats whereas "but black people commit more crimes" is RACIST!

It's already been explained that blacks are less shy about
their entrepreneurial enterprises and deal more with their
prospective customers on sidewalks and in ally's where
police patrol is common. Whites go indoors more.
It's a culture thing.
 
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Whether or not a shooting was justified is hardly irrelevant.

Right and given that race and police involvement is under discussion the statistical likelihood of a particular offender being of a given race is also hardly irrelevant :wave:
 
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Ah, this is one of those threads created to justify racism in another thread.

Or alternatively to highlight the inconsistences of certain approaches to the problems of inequality.

Quite an interesting twist you've spun it with though, I must say ^_^
 
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I gotta say that a movement meant to protect black people has sparked some of the most beautiful support from people who are only interested in supporting other groups. It's like now people actually care about stuff! It's like they want to create change!

Or maybe it's just that they want to deflect from issues.
 
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