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Owner of the Nation's Largest Privately Owned Abortion Chain, Dies in Montana Plane C

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality' started by CreedIsChrist, Mar 26, 2009.

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  1. CreedIsChrist

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    DEACON FOR LIFE: Family of Irving 'Bud' Feldkamp, Owner of the Nation's Largest Privately Owned Abortion Chain, Dies in Montana Plane Crash

    What else is the mainstream news not telling you? The family who died in the crash near the location of the abortion victim's memorial, is the family of Irving 'Bud' Feldkamp, owner of the largest for-profit abortion chain in the nation.

    Family Planning Associates was purchased four years ago by Irving Moore "Bud" Feldkamp III, owner of Allcare and Hospitality Dental Associates and CEO of Glen Helen Raceway Park in San Bernardino. The 17 California Family Planning clinics perform more abortions in the state than any other abortion provider - Planned Parenthood included - and they perform abortions through the first five months of pregnancy.

    Although Feldkamp is not an abortionist, he reaps profits of blood money from the tens of thousands of babies that are killed through abortions performed every year at the clinics he owns. His business in the abortion industry was what enabled him to afford the private plane that was carrying his family to their week- long vacation at The Yellowstone Club, a millionaires- only ski resort.




    "We warned him, for his children's sake, to wash his hands of the innocent blood he assisted in spilling because, as Scripture warns, if "you did not hate bloodshed, bloodshed will pursue you". (Ezekiel 35:6) "



    What are peoples thoughts on this? I feel bad for the family and pray for them but do any of the faithful take this as a sign of retribution??.
     
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    Jade Margery Stranger in a strange land

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    All together now children!

    CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSALITY.



    Thank yew. :cool:
     
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    If a church leader died in a plane crash, no one would suggest that it was divine intervention telling them they had the wrong religion.

    No doubt some people will read into this what they want.

    He also owned a large dental care chain. Perhaps God hates flossing?
     
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    I'm not saying that God struck down the plane, all I'm doing is reporting the issue. But I don't think we can simply just subtract the possibility of retribution either. We see many accounts, like when Herod was struck down, or the Exodus plagues, Sodom and Gomorrah.

    So while it may be just coincidence I think we should not immediately discount other reasons either. Maybe the big time abortion CEOs and leaders will see this and wonder. Its weird cause I remember saying, I think yesterday, that It would probably take divine intervention to get rid of the abortion industry.
     
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    Herod lived to be something like 79 years old. I don't consider someone living to be 80 to be "stuck down" by God when they die due to illness. If that's the case, my grandfather was "stuck down".

    If God kills one person in plane crash that most people have never even heard of and you are comparing that to the Exodus plagues then God has certainly lost a lot of power and scope. I'm sure that God could make it VERY clear if that was the intent. I think this might be your garden variety plane crash.
     
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    Some would call AIDS a plague.
     
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    It's a plague that's surprisingly easy never to contract. I didn't notice many Egyptians able to avoid the blood, frogs, locusts, or death of first born in Exodus. Am I missing a chapter?
     
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    They didn't put blood above the entrances of their homes like the Hebrews did. Easy enough to prevent that plague too...
     
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    You think God couldn't tell the Hebrew homes from the Egyptian homes? If an Egyptian had done that, do you feel God would have sparred them?
     
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    I don't know but that is how the story reads.
     
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    Ok, even granting that (which I don't really accept), the Egyptians couldn't avoid the blood, the hail, the frogs, the locusts...
     
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    You certainly seem to suggest he did.
    And by making the topic I'm quite confided that you actually consider it a good posibility.

    All I can say is that you are a sick sick man if you actually think your god kills people like that.
    And since god is imaginary it tells something about yourself aswell. You actually feel that person deserved to die for helping women with THEIR choice?

    Women are making the choice for abortion NOT the person who crashed.

    But whatever your primitive beliefs, a plane crashing down has absolutely no correlation with god interfering. Planes fly all the time, and they crash regularly. Sometimes with 300 people inside, sometimes less.
    To take one example and give it a label like "a possible sign of retribution" it completely ridiculous and one might even call it 'wishful thinking'. Which once again, tells something about yourself, not your god

    - Ectezus
     
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    Sure they could. All they had to do was let the Jews go.
     
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    The Egyptians had that choice, or Pharaoh did? God hardened his heart so that he wouldn't let them go. God wanted to deliver all the plagues, and took active steps to make sure the Jews were not let go before God wanted it.

    Also, if you read the story, understand that they were tricking Pharaoh. All Moses ever asked for was three days to go worship and sacrifice. He never revised that in all the time he asked to let his people go to mean that they would be leaving forever.
     
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    lol. And I could say your support of the killing of 50 MILLION unborn children tells something about yourself too. So It can go both ways. I could also say that going on a christianforum telling Christians that they're God is wishful thinking says something about yourself too(like wanting attention?)


    My post gives a 50/50 thought scope on this, while it may be just coincidence it also may be retribution or an example. We don't know. But I myself notice. God works in mysterious ways.


    Also you have a much larger chance of getting in a car crash than a plane crash. Due to our technology it doesn't "happen all the time". In fact dying in a plane crash today is extremely low..
     
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    God's will is not always pleasant.
     
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    So, you will agree with me, zipping back to the OP, that one guy who is mostly unknown to the nation dying in a plane crash, and that plane crash hardly being reported due to lack of interest wouldn't really be on the same level as the plagues of Egypt in Exodus?
     
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    The acts of you using your turn signal once on the way to work versus cooking a gourmet 6 course meal when you get home are both different and the same.
     
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    :confused:
     
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    God taking out a plane versus plaguing a nation are both actions from the same being. Does one require more effort or have more meaning than the other? That is a subjective question.
     
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