This may have been a topic in the past here but I'm a new member. Wanted to hear people's thoughts and views on this. Do you think it's possible and has anyone ever experienced this themselves before?
Out of body experience or near death?
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Thousands of people have experienced NDEs.
Here's a link to some of their experiences: http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/NDERF_NDEs.htm
It's one of the main reasons I'm not an atheist.
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Out of body experiences are satanic to the core.
High-level eavesdropping and astral projection can lead to mental breakdowns.
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Paul did not know.
"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven." 2 cor 12:2
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Near-death experiences are not the same thing as out-of-body experiences.
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Do you have dreams or visions?
"KJB Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy", your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
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No.
We believe those came to an end when the Scriptures were completed in AD 96.[VERSE=1 Corinthians 13:8-10,KJV][VERSENUM]8[/VERSENUM] Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
[VERSENUM]9[/VERSENUM] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
[VERSENUM]10[/VERSENUM] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.[/VERSE]
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They didn't stop by 100 A.D.
But we can have differences with purpose. God has you where He presently wants you and likewise for me. And He is working in each of us, even towards maturity in Christ Jesus.
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Yes. As with any encounters with the spiritual realm, some have experienced dark entities, some entities of light.
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Yes, and make sure these "neuroscientists and people that know the brain better than anyone" explain the silver cord.
(Assuming they take all of reality into consideration.)
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Can you back that up with scripture? Just curious, I mean, why does something like an out-of-body experience automatically equate to Satanic?
I'm always curious as to Christians who "automatically" equate any paranormal activity as satanic.
Why couldn't the ability to walk outside your body be a god given gift? If anything I would argue that any paranormal ability would be a god given gift and it is up to you in how you choose to use it...
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If you read the [negative] testimonies of those who have engaged in this activity, then you'll conclude it's satanic to the core.
The astral plane is supposedly inhabited by all sorts of demons trying to cut the silver cord, leave you stranded there so you can't find your way back, and even reports of some coming back to find their bodies taken over by others.
All leading toward mental breakdowns.
It's nothing more than a ruse to get one to "open his mind," so as to allow spirits in.
Dream Weaver, by Gary Wright, is far from the pleasant activity it depicts in its song.
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So your belief that it is Satanic is not based on scripture or biblical scholars but rather your deductions based on negative testimonies and anecdotes...
Wouldn't the astral plane also be inhabited by angels as well sent there to either aid in given you visions, aid your journeys in the astral plane or they are there just hanging out on vacation?
My point isn't so much that out of body experiences exists, are possible, or impossible. My point is to just challenge your assertion that out-of-body experiences are "automatically Satanic".
I disagree. I don't know God's will, but I do know that in the bible God is credited with given men various abilities and who is to say that he wouldn't give someone the ability to have an out-of-body experience.
Basically, I'm just a bit skeptical with how some Christians are super quick to throw the Satan flag on anything and everything that is outside their comfort zone.... If you don't have scripture backing you up, you can't claim it is automatically de faulto Satanic.
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Depends on what you mean by that, I think, personally, that there are different things that happen
One example:
Someone's mind disassociating from it's normal perceived location in their body ( The head ) is a rather common experience of somebody who sits in a sensory deprivation tank for an extended period of time.
It's not been satisfactorily explained, afaik, but obviously the " consciousness resides in the mind " is not always true, and we see firsthand evidence of this in the SD tanks
Now, the brain is still there, and the activity in the brain is still going on, but the person feels like they may be outside of their body, or that their head is " somewhere else "
I think that " OBE " and NDE " are rather vague terms, honestly, and that it may be that there are a range of different events happening and being generalized with blanket terms
One example:
Someone's mind disassociating from it's normal perceived location in their body ( The head ) is a rather common experience of somebody who sits in a sensory deprivation tank for an extended period of time.
It's not been satisfactorily explained, afaik, but obviously the " consciousness resides in the mind " is not always true, and we see firsthand evidence of this in the SD tanks
Now, the brain is still there, and the activity in the brain is still going on, but the person feels like they may be outside of their body, or that their head is " somewhere else "
I think that " OBE " and NDE " are rather vague terms, honestly, and that it may be that there are a range of different events happening and being generalized with blanket terms
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