Orlando Nightclub Shooting

[smaneck]

Look how radically legalistic his life was though. A security guard, always wearing NYPD shirts, his wife didn't follow his rules, so he beat her.

His ex-wife says he beat her because he was mentally unstable. Contrary to your prejudices being a wife-beater does not make someone an observant Muslim. In fact, his ex says he wasn't that religious and showed no signs while they were married of being under the sway of radical Islam.

 

[seashale76]

You know, folks, if it does turn out that this guy had an accomplice, it doesn't mean it was a false flag initiated by our government.

 

[smaneck]

He was unfit to be an armed security guard to begin with having been under investigation previously and being a known ISIS sympathizer according to sources.

He was under investigation as a result of comments he had made while he was working security.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

I have a pretty good idea. My brother was gay and he sometimes took me to those places.

Look, it's just a stupid assumption. Gays are just like anyone else. If they get drunk enough, they'll have sex anywhere. There are no "bath houses" these days, and yes, they do have sex in back rooms, bathrooms, offices, hallways, cars, etc. Stop trying to sound like you know it all, because frankly you don't.

 

[seashale76]

I'm trying to figure out how, when, and where gay folks are having sex is relevant to this thread. I'm also trying to figure out how threats of bacon to fight the Islam and long winded apologetics arguments for Islam and the glories of dhimmitude is relevant to the topic either. This was the biggest mass shooting/killing in US history. People died. This is tragic- and all some of you can talk about are things that have nothing to do with anything relevant.

 

[expos4ever]

Oh wow. I always think of Canada as being safer and "cleaner" somehow than America.

I think we are safer (primarily due to many fewer guns), but we are just as plagued with mental illness.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Look, it's just a stupid assumption. Gays are just like anyone else. If they get drunk enough, they'll have sex anywhere. There are no "bath houses" these days, and yes, they do have sex in back rooms, bathrooms, offices, hallways, cars, etc. Stop trying to sound like you know it all, because frankly you don't.

What does this have to do with the massacre, again?

 

[smaneck]

There are no "bath houses" these days, .

Really? What's this?

http://club-orlando.com/

Incidentally, it is less than a mile from where the shooting occurred.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I'm trying to figure out how, when, and where gay folks are having sex is relevant to this thread. I'm also trying to figure out how threats of bacon to fight the Islam and long winded apologetics arguments for Islam and the glories of dhimmitude is relevant to the topic either. This was the biggest mass shooting/killing in US history. People died. This is tragic- and all some of you can talk about are things that have nothing to do with anything relevant.

Quoted for Truth!

 

[AvilaSurfer]

What does this have to do with the massacre, again?

If you're not going to follow the conversation then stay out of it.

 

[smaneck]

I'm trying to figure out how, when, and where gay folks are having sex is relevant to this thread. I'm also trying to figure out how threats of bacon to fight the Islam and long winded apologetics arguments for Islam and the glories of dhimmitude is relevant to the topic either. This was the biggest mass shooting/killing in US history. People died. This is tragic- and all some of you can talk about are things that have nothing to do with anything relevant.

Might I suggest that nasty comments about 'dhimmitude' are equally irrelevant?
That is a term coined by Islamophobes.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

If you're not going to follow the conversation then stay out of it.

The conversation seems irrelevant to the thread.

 

[Hetta]

... is wondering how some people claim to have special knowledge all the places that gay people have sex :O

 

[civilwarbuff]

So, is this where we are going?

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

There are no Muslim countries today where the jizya is collected by a recognized government.

Agreed

Isn't the zakat based on ones income? What income does a babe in the womb have?

Sorry, I totally mixed the different types of zakaah up. It is zakaatul fitr which is to be given on their behalf by the one responsible for them.

The major form of zakaah is what you're referring to (which anybody with an income/gold/various agricultural items must pay for, regardless of gender).

LOL. That's a great way of putting it!

I thought so too. I can't take credit for it though, I read it somewhere awhile back.

 

[seashale76]

Might I suggest that nasty comments about 'dhimmitude' are equally irrelevant?
That is a term coined by Islamophobes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmitude
The term was coined in 1982 by the Lebanese President Bachir Gemayel, who was later assassinated, in reference to perceived attempts by the country's Muslim leadership to subordinate the large Lebanese Christian minority. In a speech of September 14, 1982 given at Dayr al-Salib in Lebanon, he said: "Lebanon is our homeland and will remain a homeland for Christians… We want to continue to christen, to celebrate our rites and traditions, our faith and our creed whenever we wish… Henceforth, we refuse to live in any dhimmitude!"[1]

ETA: Perhaps we can get the thread back on topic now?

 

[dogs4thewin]

I said this would happen. I said with all the LGBT stuff happening that some extremist muslim would go on a shooting rampage. They (the more extreme ones) are willing to kill anyone. This is why I tell LGBT, its not christians with words that you have to worry about. Terrorists hate us all alike. Lets focus less on what we say and more of the actions from other groups who prefer violence over words.

Yes, but this is ( as far as I recall.) the first time they have targeted a place on such a scale based presumly anyway on the types of people likely to be there in that respect.

 

[Hetta]

Nobody knows whether this is a "they" or an individual act. I wish people would actually wait for the investigation.

 

[lasthero]

Nobody knows whether this is a "they" or an individual act. I wish people would actually wait for the investigation.

It's an election year.

Prepare to be disappointed.

 

[dogs4thewin]

You know, folks, if it does turn out that this guy had an accomplice, it doesn't mean it was a false flag initiated by our government.

Even if he does not have an accompilice that does not in and of itself mean that the government had anything to do with it. People act "crazy" all the time on their own without government help.