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One Hundred Fold Return

Discussion in 'Word of Faith' started by Dondi, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. Dondi

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    Though this OP is kinda long, I hope you'll bear with me, for I do have an inquiry at the end. And that I ask it in all sincerity, though I am weary of some of the WoF teachings.

    I happened on an episode of the BVOV this morning with Gloria Copeland and Pastor George Pearsons talking about the "One Hundred Fold Return" with the basis of scripture as Mark 10:28-30:

    "Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
    And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life."

    The jist of Gloria's discussion was in the area of giving and it was mentioned that if one gives $1 to the Lord, then one ought to expect a $100 return in that investment. And that it was pointed out that the "one hundredfold" is now, as well as in the world to come.

    OK, great. I'm all for that. Where do I sign up?

    But I suspect that there is much more to this that is apparent. In the first place, if this is such a foundational principle, then anyone who out of his/her heart gives to the Lord ought to see this principle come to pass with regular fluidity. Unfortunately, and obviously, anecdotally this just doesn't seem to be the case on a regular basis.

    I do not deny that Jesus clearly is speaking of receiving "one hundred fold". And that He was speaking of receiving it "now in this time", that is in this lifetime. But I am at a loss as to how this is supposed to work exactly.

    In the first place, this passage follows the incident with the young rich ruler, who back in verse 21 was told by Jesus to "go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me." Evidently, this young man had a problem with riches and it was the thing that prevented him from knowing the Lord. There was something that this person must give up in order to even inherit eternal life, namely his riches.

    So in contrast, when Peter tells Jesus in verse 28, "Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee", it is then that Jesus gives this promise.

    The question is, to what extent does one need to leave all and follow Jesus?

    Do I need to divorce my wife? Do I need to disown my children? Even my family? Do I need to sell my house and land? From the context of the passage, that seems to be the case.

    The problem I have is Peter as an example. He said he left all and followed Jesus. But what evidence from scripture do we find that Peter received "one hundred fold" return for that sacrifice? In Acts 3, Peter declares, "Silver and gold have I none..." Was his blessings delayed? Later he is beatened and thrown in jail several times and threatened with death when he escaped. And in his letters, he speaks of suffering in the name of Christ and facing persecutions. And in fact, Peter eventually died relatively young as a martyr, as well as most of the other Apostles, who gave up all and followed Jesus as well, all of whom presumably entitled to the same "one hundredfold" blessing as Peter.

    At least Jesus got the "with persecutions" part right.

    Can anyone help me out where or how the Apostles got blessed "one hundred fold"? What am I not seeing? I honestly want to understand this scripture.
     
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  2. ABlessedMan

    ABlessedMan Word of Faith Teacher

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    Well, that makes 2 full days of dead silence.

    It's like you walked into an automobile manufacturing plant yelling that the internal combustion engine won't work. Everyone looks at you like someone who simply doesn't understand, and they come to the silent conclusion that it isn't worth the fight to convince you otherwise -- because your premise is loaded for bear: you didn't come in to ask a question you came to couch yet another anti-WoF attack.

    No wonder you got nothing but silence.

    You see, your agenda was simply wrong. For instance...

    ...is simply wrong. The rich ruler did not have to give up one penny (or denarius) for eternal life -- he simply had to give up his love for the money. Then giving the money would have come easy. It was a heart issue, not a bank account issue.

    Take Nicodemus for example. He was rich! Jesus didn't suggest he shed one dime.

    In case your questions are really real:
    No, don't divorce your wife -- especially since Jesus forbid divorce except in cases of adultery; don't disown your children -- or a millstone might be waiting; keep your family, your house and your land.

    What God wants is your heart.

    And really....you seem to have come here with devious intentions. Bad heart.

    Get used to the silence. We are quite weary of WoF critics coming to "teach" us our problems. But be blessed of the Lord. Know that He is willing and waiting to bless you beyond your wildest imagination.
     
  3. Dondi

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    Totally with you on that. It was a heart issue. But I disagree with you that he didn't have to give up one dime. Because unless he could demonstrate that riches didn't matter to him, i.e., give away what he had, then he would continue with that problem. Maybe he didn't have to give it all up, but do you recall what Zacchaeus did and Jesus' response?

    "And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord: Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.

    And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost." - Luke 19:8-10

    Furthermore, Nicodemus' problem wasn't riches. His problem as a Pharisee was strict interpretation of the Law, evident by his literal misunderstanding of what it means to be born again, back in his mother's womb. So he didn't have the same stigma that the rich man had.

    Jesus is obviously emphasizing what our life's priorities ought to be, that is Christ first. But if you are going to tell me that I don't have to divorce my wife, disown my kids, or sell my possessions, that what Jesus was saying was allegorical, then conversely why wouldn't I expect that the latter gain from the one hundred fold, as in gaining houses, sisters, brethren, children, lands, etc., likewise be allegorical.

    Doesn't it make sense to be consistent in the whole passage?

    I think you are misjudging me. I'm actually seeking an answer to the question. I'm not some troll ready to pounce on people's beliefs. In fact, this is the first time in several years that I've even posted on CF.

    I like to think of myself like the Bereans, seaching the scriptures to see if these things are so. You might think the question is loaded, but all I'm doing is making an accessment based on what I see in scripture. The reason I came here and asked is because I do see that the One Hundredfold Plan is indeed biblical, as I've already stated. I'm just trying to figure out exactly how the plan works. I honestly want to know.

    If it is as WoF says it is, then it should likewise be consistent. But as I gave example of Peter, and the apparent lack of blessings absent according to later scriptural testamony about the man, not to mention the other apostles, can you blame me for inquiring about something I'm finding hard to see.

    Don't get me wrong. I do believe that God blesses. I've see it over and over in my life. But not anything on the grand scale that this passage speaks of. And I'm honestly wondering why. Particularly when Jesus said it. Perhaps some on this forum can testify to the One Hundred fold Plan?

    I'm sorry you have folks that come here with bad intent. And I can understand your suspicion of me when I come with such an inquiry. But I can assure you I do not have any devious intentions. I believe I've been quite logical about the whole line of questioning. I'm not here to prove you wrong, I'm here to prove you right. Faith can only come when doubt is removed. Please help mine unbelief.
     
  4. HolySpiritWOF

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    hi Dondi,
    today is the 2nd week of george and gloria on prosperity.
    for 2 weeks prior ken and rick renner were on......both were talking about how russia has been a spiritual / religious vacuum for 50 plus years......they have both seen the totally non-religious russians whole-heartedly grab and run with the WOF teaching on prosperity.....one of the last countries where you would think BIBLE COVENANT PROSPERITY could work.......

    there is no affluence in the country.....it is so broken and impoverished....yet because the believers BELIEVE GOD'S EVERY WORD so strongly that they ACT on it.....they are getting cars and houses and provisions that others cannot seem to find......

    ken and rick are attributing the amazing results to UNWAVERING faith in GOD'S WORDS.....they say that once the people hear that GOD says something is so....they do not question it or doubt it....they just believe it and act on it.....

    what i get from their testimony is that...... GOD's WORD is consistently powerful....the inconsistency lies with us......

    that is one of the good things about true WOF teachers.....the ones that CARE about the sheep and want them ALL to have EVERYTHING JESUS provided through HIS BLOOD shed for the NEW COVENANT.....these loving WOF teachers keep preaching and teaching and trying to help believer's soul's grab hold of GOD's WORD with faith so that they too can prosper and be in good health even as their soul prospers......

    GOD'S WORD and PROMISES are for whosoever will......many people have doubt and unbelief PROGRAMMED into their hearts and minds and souls and spirits and it takes a lot of anointed WORD over and over and over again to root it out..... GOD told joshua to meditate DAY and NIGHT on HIS WORDS so that he would be careful to DO everything and then prosper in EVERYTHING GOD COMMANDED......

    well for us....we need to meditate DAY and NIGHT on GOD'S EVERY promise and COVENANT provision so that revelation and faith will EXPLODE inside us.... and mix powerfully with HIS WORD.... so that we will get the same awesome results as these russian believers.....

    GOD BLESS you dondi......GOD'S BEST to you.......WOF is the BEST that so many of us have EVER found......

    every denomination has it's treasures.....but WOF seems to have advanced because they take GOD literally and they DO NOT consider anything BUT GOD'S WORD....that is our foundational belief upon which we interpret all Scripture.....FAITH and the WORD......all our answers are found somewhere in GOD'S literal WORD.....
     
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  5. ABlessedMan

    ABlessedMan Word of Faith Teacher

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    Scripture does not tell us that Nicodemus had to give up any of his wealth. He simply had his priorities in the right order that the wealth did not blind his spiritual understanding/learning.

    So we have Nic who gave up nothing (that we know of, but we can't preach from silence, eh?); Zac who gave up half; and the young ruler who had to give up all (which he didn't, so away he went). It isn't about the money!!

    Yes, it is. But allegorical wouldn't be the right term. Scripture is simply pointing out the magnitude of the decision process. You have to put Christ before ALL else, as if you divorced your wife, disowned your kids.... But God never asked for that. He simply asked for preeminence (which He has anyway, but He wants you to recognize it -- or you have gods before Him).

    Perhaps. Which is why I ventured an answer to you. But the look and feel was the same. I've dealt with many WoF critics over the years in forums like this (actually much more brutal than this one), and they aren't interested in WHY or WHAT WoF believes; instead they point out what they think we believe and then proceed to burn the strawman. In some cases they actually get what WoF believes, but since it differs from their own interpretation, they break out the matches anyway and try to burn the believer. It's a witch hunt where there are no witches.

    Fair enough. One thing to keep in mind is the rules: if you are not WoF (and displaying the WoF icon) you cannot teach here; we can fellowship and we can ask questions -- you simply can't teach non-WoF doctrines/theology. If that is fair enough, then so be it.

    Fred Price once visited our church here in the Arizona desert. He talked about the hundred fold return. He explicitly said that it is not a multiplication by 100. He said that if it were he could easily sow $100,000 and expect $10,000,000; he would then sow that whole amount and reap $1,000,000,000; once more he'd have fun and get $100,000,000,000. Soon there wouldn't be enough printed money to come back.

    What he said should be emphasized is the principle of the return. You cannot outgive God. If your heart is in the right place, then when you sow He will return a harvest to you. And, as taught in WoF doctrines, that harvest is not just spiritual returns when you pass from this earth, but they are here and now.
    Mark 10:29-30
    So Jesus answered and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel’s, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time—houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions—and in the age to come, eternal life.
    Literally leave house and wife and children? Of course not. But your heart must be directed so that they are not higher than Christ. And when does the hundredfold come back? "Now in this time*...AND in the age to come" (*with persecutions! dontcha think Cope is persecuted for the return that comes to him?).

    Now I believe that we see that in the lives of people like the Copelands, Dollars, Duplantis', Prices and others. I see it in my own life. I am tremendously blessed and I owe it all to God. His blessing simply can't be matched.
     
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  6. ABlessedMan

    ABlessedMan Word of Faith Teacher

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    :clap: Amen! and Amen! Good word!! :clap:
     
  7. HolySpiritWOF

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    Hi Dondi,

    the rich guy that died after being so mean to lazurus asked father abraham to send someone back from the dead to convince his brothers to repent and live right.... but father abraham said.... they have the law and the prophets.....let them listen to them.....so likewise...we need to listen to GOD'S WORD too.....

    testimonies are not to be our basis for faith.....
    testimonies can encourage our faith.....
    but FAITH comes only through hearing and hearing and hearing and hearing the WORD of GOD.......

    one thing that really impacted my life in a powerful way was to listen ONLY to WOF teaching....
    their understanding of the WORD is so FAITH AUTHORITY DOMINION anointed because they take EVERYTHING so literal.....

    WOF doesn't make excuses for what GOD says.... WOF does an about face to HONOR and OBEY and BELIEVE and ACT on what GOD says.... no matter what it looks, feels, sounds like.....

    when a WOF has a need..... he looks to the HOLY SPIRIT to lead him to the ANOINTED WORD - the TRUTH - for the SEED - the provision.... the secrets of the LORD are for those who fear HIM ....HE will make them KNOW HIS covenant....

    then he meditates continuously.....
    speaking GOD'S WORD over and over to himself until the WORD explodes into full REVELATION and FAITH......

    then a WOF speaks to the mountain with that FAITH and AUTHORITY from the WORD....
    telling it to be removed and buried in the sea.....

    then a WOF SPEAKS like GOD and CALLS things that are not as though they were....
    calling GOD'S specific KINGDOM promise to come and HIS WILL to be done in full mainifestation here on earth.....

    and then he receives......

    WOF doesn't look at his watch or calendar and wonder "what is taking so long?"......
    WOF continues to look at the WORD....thanking and PRAISING GOD ..... knowing that GOD CANNOT lie.....

    so the hundred fold return is true because GOD SAID IT......
    you first have to settle that in your heart......
    once you can truly say that you absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt believe that the hundred fold return is WORD for WORD true because GOD SAID IT...... then GOD can help you UNDERSTAND IT and receive it.....

    the ONLY way to advance in WOF is to make a comittment to GOD that you WILL believe HIM EVERY TIME.... no mater what..... that is is the beginning..... then from there GOD WATCHES OVER HIS WORD TO PERFORM IT......
    you don't have to make HIS WORD happen.... that's HIS job.....
    you don't even have to understand it....
    all that is required of you is that you believe EVERY WORD from GOD'S mouth....
    you just have to fight the GOOD fight of faith and believe HIM.....
    but remember....faith is NOT a feeling..... faith is a decision....
    don't be fooled by "feelings" of doubt and unbelief.....
    you ARE a BELIEVER.... say so.....
    every time you don't feel like you believe..... speak to that lying symptom and say.....
    "I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE EVERY WORD THAT COMES OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD"...

    this is the WOF way.....praying for you Dondi to KNOW HIS GOODNESS in full manifestation for your every need..... GOD BLESS you....woff
     
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  8. jesus always loves me

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    What does the Greek really mean for "left all" ?
    We think it means to divorce your wife and give away everything.
    But is that what was really said?

    God is literal, but sometimes the translators thought God was allegorical so they used the wrong words in translating.

    Maybe "left all" means something different than what we think it does.
     
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    i know a man and his wife who litterally sold all that they had and went to the mission field in the Phillipines. they worked there for 10 years and then came back to the states to live and work.

    35 years later they are still reaping the rewards of their work in the Phillipines.
    the one school they started has become three, the 10 churches they started have grown to over 100, and he went back last year to participate in the graduation ceremonies of the grandchildren of his first students from that same school.

    today he still plants seeds wherever he can. the church that he began here with 100 members has grown to 3,000+ members. the church connection that he began with 5 churches about three years ago has now multiplied to 50 churches so far.
     
  10. ABlessedMan

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    Now that has the sweet smell of the Annointing! :amen:
     
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    ABlessedMan Word of Faith Teacher

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    Mar_10:29 "...there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's"
    left is aphiēmi it means:
    (1) to send away
    (2) to permit, allow, not to hinder, to lay aside
    (3) to leave, go way from one
    The first definition includes the concept of "putting away (divorcing) a wife." But we don't divorce brothers and sisters and children and lands.

    Further, Jesus told us:
    Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
    In other words, if Mark 10:29 really meant to divorce your wife for the sake of the gospel, then for the sake of the gospel we need to commit adultery. This simply is not harmonic with the Biblical message as a whole.
    So what about "going away from" and leaving family behind to preach the gospel.
    Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
    Can a person really "go away from" their spouse and still be one flesh? Would a man be able to be the head of his household if he isn't there? Again, such a reading would leave an inconsistency to scripture.

    But if we understand Mark 10:29 as a preeminence issue: Jesus and the gospel message is more important than anything else: house, brother, sister, father, mother, wife and children -- without forsaking these things -- then we have the right order.
     
  12. jesus always loves me

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    Abraham left his homeland and his relatives and received at least 100 fold.
     
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    Amen. :amen: :thumbsup:
    This would match the testimony of Peter and the other apostles too.

    This is what Jesus and Word of Faith teachers are talking about when they say you don't have to worry about giving it all away for the kingdom sake because you are guaranteed the 100 fold return.

    3 schools and 100 churches in the Phillipines and 3,000 members and 50 churches here:
    That all sounds like way more that 100 fold of what they sold originally for the sake of the Kingdom.

    What did they sell originally?
    A house and furniture and car?
    A business?
     
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    This is no more "automatic" than salvation is...

    Most would agree that salvation has been purchased for all men...but men must come to God and receive in order to get in on this salvation, and they have to do it based on what God said...if they would like God's involvement...some don't, and just want what He can do for them....instead of HIM!

    This is the same. Just because God desires for man to have something (and a hundred fold return is just a start...He's got much more than just that) does not mean it's gonna fall out of Heaven automatically.

    In order to walk with God, one must choose to agree with God....Jesus clearly stated that we shall receive a hundred fold return in this time for ALL that we give up for the sake of the Gospel (this is not limited to just money!), so we know it's the Father's will because Jesus only spoke what He heard from the Father (that's why they call Him 'the Word')

    First thing to realize in this is....Gloria Copeland is not the one who dreamed this up, nor is any other preacher responsible for originating this.

    Jesus Christ specifically PROMISED this...it's up to you to go to Him in sincere prayer about this. Best thing you can do for a season is turn off all teaching concerning prosperity and DIG DEEP in God's Word, just you and the Holy Ghost. (No commentaries...just the teaching of the Holy Ghost...which requires us to enter into His rest so we can hear)

    Sometimes, we just gotta take God's Word for things, and rely on the teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit to teach us how certain biblical teachings effect our lives and learn how the Lord is leading us to walk these things out.

    When it comes to learnin new stuff...I'm always reminded of:

    Isaiah 1:18
    Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD

    Reasoning with God is to get His wisdom and knowledge (see: 1 Corinthians 1:30) and learn how HE does things! I don't know 'bout anybody else, but I've had about enough of mankind's wisdom...it always eventually fails and it beings me no closer to God, but further way.

    Don't worry...God is not going to jump out and tell you to give everything you have away (the devil will come try to make you feel condemned if you don't, which is a lie), because God always starts from seeds (starts small) and grows from there.

    This is nothing to get all freaked out about like many in the Body of Christ have done to extremes in the ditch on both sides of this teaching by Jesus...God loves balance, so trust the Holy Ghost to provide the balance that is right for you in this time of your life...and you can grow from there.

    You are truly blessed for being hungry for the things of God!






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    Yes and so did his seed....us!!

    Also:
    Gen 12:4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. 5 And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came.
    Just to be clear: Abram took his wife, Sarai, and his nephew, Lot, plus all their substance plus the "souls that they had gotten in Haran." So he has all his stuff and his wife and all his servants. They have no children at this point. So he left 1 brother (for his father and his other brother, Haran, had already died).
     
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    :clap: Absolutely awesome!! :clap:

    Let me add this since we're talking about getting God's wisdom:
    Jas 1:5-7 (CEV)
    If any of you need wisdom, you should ask God, and it will be given to you. God is generous and won't correct you for asking. 6 But when you ask for something, you must have faith and not doubt. Anyone who doubts is like an ocean wave tossed around in a storm. 7 If you are that kind of person, you can't make up your mind, and you surely can't be trusted. So don't expect the Lord to give you anything at all.
    Need wisdom? Ask God...you get...if asked in faith...without doubt. :thumbsup:
     
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    yep, a house, car, all household things. there is no doubt that God has blessed him. His hasn't been an easy life by any means, but it has been a fulfilling one.

    almost every good thing that he had has been multiplied.
    i say almost, because he still has the one wife of his youth. ^_^
     
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    Hi pdudgeon,
    I have been reading the Word of Faith posts for quite awhile before joining. I didn't want to join until now, but you, the mods, wordoffaithfellowship, and ABlessedMan have recently been consistently and wisely dealing with the anti-Word of Faith attackers in an effective way. I finally felt safe enough to sign up and join. Thank you pdudgeon, wordoffaithfellowship, ABlessedMan, mods. Your wisdom and boldness make this forum so safe and peaceful. You are like armed peacekeepers. You use God's word and wisdom so effectively. You bless me with your Word-wisdom posts and your safe-keeping of our site. I learn a lot from what you share.

    I also wanted to publicly thank Cindy and Andreha for the consistent love, encouragement, inpiration you share. The testimonies you both share and the love you have for God and all people really makes this Word of Faith site a blessing. The Presence of God is so sweet here because of you both and others like you who keep sharing the love of God and the Word of God.

    God bless you very special people. You make my experience here a blessing.
     
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    Now this is the most reasonable reply I've seen. I would agree that Peter, in terms of advancing the Gospel and seeing souls saved, and starting churches, and building up the Body of Christ, is the most tangible thing we can see on this One Hundred Fold Return.

    It goes along with the Parable of the Sower, where the Seed is the Word of God (not seed money), and the return there is 30, 60, and 100 fold. There is nothing more precious to God than to see His Children come back to His Loving Arms.

    All the angels in heaven rejoice when there's a soul saved.


    I thank you for your replies in this thread. I hope to study the matter through in through in light of what I here. I know you all speak the Spirit of the Lord. Pray that I will understand the truth of this matter. Thank you.

    I will report on any further developments in my quest to see this One Hundred Fold principle come to fruition. Meanwhile, please continue to share your testimonies about it.
     
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