Obama: Swine flu a national emergency

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I'm glad he did this. Twice I had to make my two year old wear a mask to the ER because he gashed his head open, and then inadvertently pulled one of them out. But there were people there with the flu so he had to wear a mask.

Have YOU ever tried to make a two year old wear a mask?

All this does is give hospitals a little more leeway in how they handle the flu cases.
 
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Canada is already far gone, they have commie socialist health care (BILLIONS die every day), they allow gays to get married and they even let sick people smoke MARIJUANA.

I think anyone who sees what Canada is today understands just how horrible a place Obama could turn America into.

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isaiah went naked for three years because god told him to. you would have like to see his drugged too, i presume. what is pleasing to man is ugly to god.

If a naked man walked up to you and told you that god told him to walk around naked what would you think of him?
 
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swine flu has killed what? 1000 people and it is a national emergency?
anyone want to guess how many people die from regular flu?


something is rotten in denmark


It has already killed more children than seasonal flu and we are only just getting into the flu season. This is national emergency for a few reasons, it is killing people, putting others in the hospital (like my dad, who will be out of work for at least 2 months due to pneumonia) and it spreads very quickly.

Even a few more points up the mortality scale and you are talking about 1000s of more people dieing, if it mutates dramatically or swaps genetics with something like H5N1 then you could be looking at killing 30% of those it infects.

THIS is why people are concerned. You are a smart guy, look at the data and educate yourself.
 
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I'm glad he did this. Twice I had to make my two year old wear a mask to the ER because he gashed his head open, and then inadvertently pulled one of them out. But there were people there with the flu so he had to wear a mask.

Have YOU ever tried to make a two year old wear a mask?

All this does is give hospitals a little more leeway in how they handle the flu cases.

Even N95 masks are only about 50% effective at stopping flu.
 
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Whenever Obama is brought up, some reference to death camps is mandatory. It's a new rule.;)
Oh, like Bush and Hitler. Thanks I didn't get the memo.:wave:

Overspending during a pandemic is simply impossible in my book. The very last thing I want is my government being under prepared when 1918 rolls back around. There is no reason for conspiracy theories since the scientific community is sounding the majority of the alarm bells. The data shows us in no uncertain terms that this is nothing but natural and is fairly cyclical.
Overspending on everything doesn't help the pandemic. If you are saying overspending on items to combat the pandemic then I agree. But I don't beleive the world was ready for the pandemic, and the USA definately wasn't.
The solution to the pandemic, wash your hands, use hand sanitizer, stay home if you have a temp(don't even go to the DR), seal the doors and windows with Duct tape...oh wait, wrong emergency.:cool: &If you have the chance get the vaccine. If not wear a mask?
 
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It has already killed more children than seasonal flu and we are only just getting into the flu season. This is national emergency for a few reasons, it is killing people, putting others in the hospital (like my dad, who will be out of work for at least 2 months due to pneumonia) and it spreads very quickly.

Even a few more points up the mortality scale and you are talking about 1000s of more people dieing, if it mutates dramatically or swaps genetics with something like H5N1 then you could be looking at killing 30% of those it infects.

THIS is why people are concerned. You are a smart guy, look at the data and educate yourself.
(emphasis mine)

This is what is scaring people. What if the government just sat back on her laurels and did nothing? What would you say then?
 
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My point is there are bigger risks that are not treated with the same hyper-over reaction of the media and this administration. If the government had a better track record I would not be suspicious.
 
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My point is there are bigger risks that are not treated with the same hyper-over reaction of the media and this administration. If the government had a better track record I would not be suspicious.

Declaring a national emergency is not over reaction, not when there's been over 1000 deaths. Again, all this has done is given hospitals a bit more leeway in treating these cases and made it easier for people to get the help they need. When ERs are turning people away because of the fear of H1N1, there's a problem that needs to be fixed.

Kindly point me to the bigger risks.
 
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My point is there are bigger risks that are not treated with the same hyper-over reaction of the media and this administration. If the government had a better track record I would not be suspicious.

Exactly.
 
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What powers does Obama have under a National Emergency?
Off the top of my head: suspension of the Posse Comitatus act and Habeas Corpus, mandatory RFID chip implementation, installation of concentration camps under the authority of FEMA, total ban of all firearms for citizens.
 
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Off the top of my head: suspension of the Posse Comitatus act and Habeas Corpus, mandatory RFID chip implementation, installation of concentration camps under the authority of FEMA, total ban of all firearms for citizens.

to quote another poster around here:

[citation needed]
 
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That sounds pretty creepy till you actually look at the data. Ayres was a radical in his youth and since then has lived a fairly mundane life. The H1N1 data speaks for itself as well, this is a natural event that could be very dangerous.


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i guess this photo is too suttle for you eh?
 
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Kindly point me to the bigger risks.


regular flu
AIDS
terrorists
murderers
child predators


should I go on? There are other things that are killing far more people.


This admin is all about the power grab. To paraphrase one of obama's handlers....never let a good crisis go to waste.
 
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regular flu
AIDS
terrorists
murderers
child predators


should I go on? There are other things that are killing far more people.


This admin is all about the power grab. To paraphrase one of obama's handlers....never let a good crisis go to waste.
Terrorism is killing a lot less people in the US than swine flu.
 
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regular flu
AIDS
terrorists
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child predators


should I go on? There are other things that are killing far more people.


This admin is all about the power grab. To paraphrase one of obama's handlers....never let a good crisis go to waste.

Gangs, the illegal drugs sooo prevalent here with the drive-by shootings that victimize and/or kill children, the public schools here that are nothing more than breeding grounds for gang-recruitment of our children, the horror of parents here who are worse than their children and join in groups of juv's assaulting other juv's....our dollar power that is at about worth "nill" now...

i could go on and on....
 
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