New York Times: Catholic priest assists at 'gay wedding' on Friday...

[Erose]

Why does it always come down to homosexual acts? I mean, why are such acts on one's mind so often that they are mentioned in almost every conversation about sin on OBOB? It's strange I think.

Because homosexual sex has been placed upon a pedestal as a tool to show how hateful and out of touch the Church is.

 

[Erose]

If Catholics truly believed what the church teaches then there'd be no divorces followed by remarriage among Catholics, no use of condoms or the pill for birth control purposes. In fact, there'd be very little sinning among Catholics. But we both know that is not really the case. It does raise the question "How should the church teach and what should it be teaching if what it teaches now is failing to convince?"

The Church needs to keep teaching the truth period. The truth believe or not is not based upon popularity. It is based upon a gospel given to us by the Son of God Himself. It doesn't matter if the whole believed that there was nothing wrong with extramarital sex, whether hetero or homo, it will be and always be sinful because God said so.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Such finality is unwarranted, Erose, because the church herself knows that the way truth is expressed develops and matures over the centuries and that what was once proclaimed in harsh words must be changed to meet the new challenges facing us. The documents of the past two ecumenical councils are clear witness to that.

 

[Erose]

Such finality is unwarranted, Erose, because the church herself knows that the way truth is expressed develops and matures over the centuries and that what was once proclaimed in harsh words must be changed to meet the new challenges facing us. The documents of the past two ecumenical councils are clear witness to that.

No the finality is warranted MoreCoffee. Because there are some things that have not develop, ie. extramarital sex, whether homo or hetero, has always been sin in the eyes of the Church. This belief has had no development for it has had no need for it.

When we speak of the development of doctrine, it is not that it can change into something that before it was not. No in the Catholic theological sphere development of doctrine comes from learning more and more about a theological position. It is the Church learning more about that doctrine through the use of reason. It is kinda like moving down and road and up ahead you see a sign. You initially may be able to determine its shape and possibly color. As you move closer, you see other features of the sign such as there may be a picture with words on it, and then you move closer and you can begin to discern what the words are and can read them. During your movement toward the sign, the sign doesn't change. Rather it is your knowledge of that sign that changes. Development of Doctrine is this.

So the truth is what the Church is called to teach. Whether that truth is popular or not it is still called to teach it.

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

Why does it always come down to homosexual acts? I mean, why are such acts on one's mind so often that they are mentioned in almost every conversation about sin on OBOB? It's strange I think.

Well it was a Gay wedding, and they have been together for 30 years. I assume they have consummated the relationship.

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

Such finality is unwarranted, Erose, because the church herself knows that the way truth is expressed develops and matures over the centuries and that what was once proclaimed in harsh words must be changed to meet the new challenges facing us. The documents of the past two ecumenical councils are clear witness to that.

Does this mean that I can go out tonight and get shattered, hookup with some nameless person for meaningless sex, then call in sick to work tomorrow ?

If that's the case, I am off to the races.

 

[Fantine]

Keeping the lines of communication open is necessary if the priest ever hopes to be an influence for good in his cousin's life.

By being present at the wedding, he is not denying his Catholicism. He is honoring a special occasion in his cousin's life. He is recognizing his cousin is an adult who makes his own decisions.

He is committing to maintaining that familial relationship and potentially, in the future, being a means to his salvation.

 

[StThomasMore]

If Catholics truly believed what the church teaches then there'd be no divorces followed by remarriage among Catholics, no use of condoms or the pill for birth control purposes. In fact, there'd be very little sinning among Catholics. But we both know that is not really the case. It does raise the question "How should the church teach and what should it be teaching if what it teaches now is failing to convince?"

No amount of convincing will work on someone who is in denial. You can talk forever.

Maybe among American Catholics. But go to Malta and eastern Catholic areas and you will find very devout devout Catholics who are the majority.

Why should the Church compromise its beliefs?

Argument of majority never really is a good premise to begin with anyway.