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New Age Can Give You Spiritual Insight!

Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by Elisha_7, Dec 6, 2012.

  1. yedida

    yedida Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!

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    Your mother needs serious prayer. That's all I can say. It took me over 10yrs to get all the Copeland error out of me. He's seriously a dangerous person to trust to teach you the Word of God since he has thrown the Torah away. He actually has nothing to say without the Torah. Pray for your mother.
     
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    Same thing I say about my own Mother and sister.

    They are still engrained with all those teachings and its hard to tear away from Pentecostals because every Pentecostal religion endorses him.
     
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    .......Meh.
     
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    daq HSN#1851

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    So true! :) In fact, if you have not already done so, if one was to look up the usages of "katecho" within its various contexts, and where and how it is used elsewhere, it becomes even more clear that what restrains, (katecho) "lawlessness" is the retaining of Truth, (Torah and the interpretations of it provided by the Master in Gospel accounts). One of the most revealing contexts where it is found comes in the Parable of the Sower:

    Luke 8:15 ~ "But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, (katecho) and bring forth fruit with patience."
     
  5. juleamager

    juleamager Anglo-Catholic with Byzantine patrimony

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    I never thought it was that serious of a problem until now, I'm not fond of him, but I tolerated her following of him.

    He preaches that prosperity gospel, which does bother me.
     
  6. visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    It is almost imperceptible.. only the truth via Holy Spirit can give you the "chalkboard scratch" signal all is not well with his leadings.
     
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    Lulav Messianic Maven Supporter

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    Hi there newbie! :wave:

    I noticed your title says you are a former Jew, I was wondering how that is possible? Did you convert and then 'unconvert'? :scratch:
     
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    Lulav Messianic Maven Supporter

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    Signs and wonders,, anyone with a true heart for G-d would know to run in the opposite direction upon encountering anything like this.[​IMG]
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  9. yedida

    yedida Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!

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    I was a part of that satanic c__p for over 15yrs and can't understand how a normal, intelligent, and born-skeptic could get sucked in, but I was. Hook, line and sinker. All the way. With one exception, I never did the glossalalia (not sure of the spelling). Back then and even now, I could not be hypnotized, because I refuse to relinquish control over my brain - but yet I was still sucked in.
    I've spoken in a language unknown to me twice in my life. Both times it was a real language (a Japanese dialect, and a Korean dialect) and people were brought to belief and salvation. The entire time I heard English only, but they heard their language. I was told after the fact that I'd been speaking to them in their language. THAT is tongues, not that satanic junk.
     
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    That's why I quit speaking in tongues after so many decades but I don't know if I would go so far as to call it Satanic{maybe}. I would like to think of it more as a tool people might use to settle them down and that's what I used it for.

    I believed in it and so it helped, I always cried when doing it because I believed in it.

    But I would say that you are correct, that speaking in tongues is a bridge between God and the hearer.

    When the people heard God's voice at Sinai, they saw the fire that hovered over them in voice, a voice so extreme as to be able to see the ripple of air it disturbed.

    The people said,'' OH MOSES! Do not let God speak to us again lest we die.

    So on the next Pentecost we see that same fire above the heads of those who spoke for God, to the people.
     
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    I might say it was Satanic in the same way that Jesus told Peter, '' get behind me Satan.'' Because Peter was thinking from the flesh which symbolizes Satan.

    That when we speak with the spirit of the man of flesh, that he is the man of Satan in all of us.
     
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    yedida Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!

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    YES!! To the people. Walking into a room full of people speaking gibberish is not uplifting to anyone but the individuals doing the noise-making. It is not edifying in the least, and that's what "tongues" is supposed to be, edifying and for the UNbeliever that they might believe. And how is that possible? For an individual to speak the word of God to them in their own language that is not a known language to the speaker. The gibberish is pure flesh, perhaps satanic was a bit harsh, but fleshly it truly is.
     
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    juleamager Anglo-Catholic with Byzantine patrimony

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    Oh, I converted to Judaism and then to Lutheranism and later Catholicism. Unless you mean, once a Jew, always a Jew.
     
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    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    So what brings you to this corner of the woods?
     
  15. juleamager

    juleamager Anglo-Catholic with Byzantine patrimony

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    As I have stated, I'm still Torah abiding. I have a love for Judaism and cherish my time as a Reformed Jew. You can sorta kinda call me a Messianic Jew, but I identify as an Eastern-rite Catholic and Torah abiding Christian.
     
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    yedida Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!

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    Didn't all the other Reformed Jews tell you that it's Reform, not "Reformed"? :D
     
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    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    MRi shows that not even the speech center is engaged... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc&feature=youtube_gdata_player.Univ of Penn. study examines people who speak in tongues with MRI which proves the speech center is not working. The passionate, sometimes rhythmic, language-like patter that pours forth from religious people who “speak in tongues” reflects a state of mental possession, many of them say. Now they have some neuroscience to back them up.

    Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania took brain images of five women while they spoke in tongues and found that their frontal lobes — the thinking, willful part of the brain through which people control what they do — were relatively quiet, as were the language centers. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/07/health/07brain.html?_r=0
     
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