My Snowman Challenge

[AV1611VET]

Neither the planet nor the universe show "maturity without history". They both show multiple evidences of "maturity with history" and that is not something you can hand-wave away with logic, reason, or evidence, because the "embedded age" idea lacks all three.

Then documentation would be needed to set the record straight, wouldn't it?

 

[CabVet]

Then documentation would be needed to set the record straight, wouldn't it?

No. Evidence is needed. Physical, biological and geological evidence. Not words that you have to believe on faith.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evidence is needed.

Even though none was generated?

 

[CabVet]

Even though none was generated?

None that you care to not ignore.

 

[AV1611VET]

None that you care to not ignore.

1. Show me evidence for the creation of the angels.

2. Show me evidence for the creation of the earth before the sun.

3. Show me evidence of whales created before man.

Can't do it?

Must be because none was generated.

 

[Loudmouth]

Then documentation would be needed to set the record straight, wouldn't it?

Why would you need documentation? If the Earth only has 6,000 years of history in it, then we should only be able to measure 6,000 years of history in the Earth shouldn't we?

 

[Loudmouth]

1. Show me evidence for the creation of the angels.

2. Show me evidence for the creation of the earth before the sun.

3. Show me evidence of whales created before man.

Can't do it?

Must be because none was generated.

You won't accept it because your mind is already made up. So why present it?

 

[AV1611VET]

If the Earth only has 6,000 years of history in it,

I define embedded age as "maturity without history."

 

[AV1611VET]

You won't accept it because your mind is already made up. So why present it?

I won't accept what?

Why present what?

You don't have anything.

That's the nature of creatio ex nihilo.

It leaves no evidence behind.

 

[Queller]

Then documentation would be needed to set the record straight, wouldn't it?

Only if that documentation is supported by the evidence. Anyone can write a "document" that someone else can then interpret incorrectly.

 

[Queller]

1. Show me evidence for the creation of the angels.

2. Show me evidence for the creation of the earth before the sun.

3. Show me evidence of whales created before man.

Can't do it?

Must be because none was generated.

Right, which is why the simple claim that these things happened is not sufficient.

 

[Queller]

I won't accept what?

Why present what?

You don't have anything.

That's the nature of creatio ex nihilo.

It leaves no evidence behind.

Unfortunately for your argument, we have literally tons of evidence against the idea that the earth and the universe were created ex nihilo6,000 years ago.

 

[AV1611VET]

Unfortunately for your argument, we have literally tons of evidence against the idea that the earth and the universe were created ex nihilo6,000 years ago.

That just breaks my heart.

 

[Loudmouth]

I won't accept what?

1. The billions of years of recorded history of decay in rocks.

2. A 700,000+ year history of ice deposition in the Antarctic.

3. The millions of years of history of divergence in genomes.

4. The billions of years of history of meteor impacts on the Earth.

Those are just the tip of the iceberg.

That's the nature of creatio ex nihilo.

It leaves no evidence behind.

Then creation ex nihilo did not happen because we do have evidence.

 

[CabVet]

1. Show me evidence for the creation of the angels.

There is none, as angels don't exist.

2. Show me evidence for the creation of the earth before the sun.

There is none, as the sun was formed (not created) before the earth.

3. Show me evidence of whales created before man.

There is none, as whales were not created, they evolved. But they did evolve before man, and I do have evidence for that. I am sure you don't really want it though.

Can't do it?

Must be because none was generated.

Plenty of evidence that many of these didn't happen.

 

[TLK Valentine]

1. Show me evidence for the creation of the angels.

2. Show me evidence for the creation of the earth before the sun.

3. Show me evidence of whales created before man.

Can't do it?

Must be because none was generated.

So we agree either it didn't happen, or someone went through a lot of trouble to hide evidence in order to obfuscate the truth.

 

[Kylie]

Term.

And what a surprise, once again you are completely incapable of doing anything other than quibbling over minutiae.

 

[EternalDragon]

You don't seem to know all that much. Perhaps you are too young to have done much researching or learning?

List of impact craters on Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which one is in the picture? Hello? I have never seen that feature on earth.

 

[EternalDragon]

All life would be burned to a crisp as the energy from the impacts increased the temperature of the atmosphere to levels that would ignite human beings. It would be like launching the entire nuclear arsenal of the US and Russia times 100.

Nothing happened to anyone in Russia recently....

 

[Queller]

That just breaks my heart.

You forgot the [/sarcasm] tags.