My Snowman Challenge

[CabVet]

Thanks for the QED.

And thank you for the non-answer.

 

[Loudmouth]

I define embedde age as "maturity without history,"

No you don't. You include false histories in embedded ages, such as radiohalos, ratios of isotopes, thousands of layers of sediments, etc.

There are known indications of billions of years of history that you included in embedded age.

 

[AV1611VET]

No you don't. You include false histories in embedded ages, such as radiohalos, ratios of isotopes, thousands of layers of sediments, etc.

There are known indications of billions of years of history that you included in embedded age.

I define embedded age as "maturity without history."

 

[CabVet]

I define embedded age as "maturity without history."

How old is the earth?

 

[AV1611VET]

How old is the earth?

4.57 billion years.

Adam was about 30.

 

[CabVet]

4.57 billion years.

Why not 20 thousand?

Adam was about 30.

Why not 15?

 

[TLK Valentine]

And how old is this man?

 

[Split Rock]

You guys see history everywhere the Bible says otherwise.

That's why you guys have Egypt, China, and Sumeria in existence before the Flood; despite the fact that they came from Noah's offspring: Mizraim, the Sinites, and Nimrod respectively.

So your illegitimate history can take a hike.

Most of the history in the bible is just fine. Its your illegitimate interpretation of the history that can take a hike.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why not 20 thousand?

Because I use the number that scientists use, for Occam's sake.

Just like I use the number Ussher uses, for Occam's sake.

Why not 15?

Was 15 a legitimate age to be employed, get married and have children?

Jesus, the Last Adam, started out His ministry at the age of 30.

It would be fitting, IMO, for the first Adam to start out his biological life at the same age.

Just my opinion though.

 

[CabVet]

Because I use the number that scientists use, for Occam's sake.

The number that the scientists use is based on history. History can take a hike. Therefore, 4.57 billion can take a hike. Not to mention, scientists killed Jesus, didn't you know? Why would you ever accept their numbers?

Was 15 a legitimate age to be employed, get married and have children?

Yes. It still is today in many places in this planet, you should look outside your window if you can.

Jesus, the Last Adam, started out His ministry at the age of 30.

So?

It would be fitting, IMO, for the first Adam to start out his biological life at the same age.

Just my opinion though.

Good to know.

 

[AV1611VET]

The number that the scientists use is based on history.

And how many times have I made it clear that I accept the conclusions of scientists; but I don't accept how they reached that conclusion?

 

[Aureus]

Was 15 a legitimate age to be employed, get married and have children?

Jesus, the Last Adam, started out His ministry at the age of 30.

It would be fitting, IMO, for the first Adam to start out his biological life at the same age.

Just my opinion though.

So just making stuff up with no biblical backing? Got it.

Maybe next time you'll answer with "I don't know how old Adam was when he was created, the Bible doesn't tell me"

 

[AV1611VET]

So just making stuff up with no biblical backing?

Ya ... how 'bout that!?

Got it.

Good.

Maybe next time you'll answer with "I don't know how old Adam was when he was created, the Bible doesn't tell me"

No, thanks.

It's not beneath me to speculate.

 

[CabVet]

And how many times have I made it clear that I accept the conclusions of scientists; but I don't accept how they reached that conclusion?

And how many times have I made it clear that the conclusions are invalid if you don't accept the hows?

 

[AV1611VET]

And how many times have I made it clear that the conclusions are invalid if you don't accept the hows?

I have a feeling you think a lot of stuff is invalid.

That's none of my business.

 

[CabVet]

I have a feeling you think a lot of stuff is invalid.

Only when the methods used to reach said conclusions were invalid.

That's none of my business.

Good to know.

Analogy: A police man finds a body and asks a scientist to determine the time of death. The scientist says "2 days ago". The case is brought to court. The timing of 2 days is brought into question and the scientist says that he determined it by counting the number of ants in his back yard. Is the conclusion that the murder happened 2 days ago a valid conclusion? Of course, right?

 

[Queller]

Whether there was evidence or not, if someone said the loaf was not created ex nihilo, he would be wrong, wouldn't he?

Only if the bread was in fact created ex nihilio, which there is not, nor can there ever be evidence of.

 

[Queller]

Is that on Earth? It would be nice to have a link.

It's a graphic representation of the Chicxulub Crater. The original source is here.

If you Google "Chicxulub Crater" or "Yucatan Crater" and check out the images, there are plenty of pics.

 

[Loudmouth]

I define embedded age as "maturity without history."

I should not find any ratios of U to Pb in zircons that are consistent with billions of years of decay history, correct?

 

[Queller]

I define embedde age as "maturity without history," and I'm sure you've seen that definition many times.

And that is the entire problem with this whole "embedded age" laugh-a-thon.

Neither the planet nor the universe show "maturity without history". They both show multiple evidences of "maturity with history" and that is not something you can hand-wave away with logic, reason, or evidence, because the "embedded age" idea lacks all three.